I saw my name and figured it was just a troll then I read it all and goddamn 
someone seems very mad. Ross (a.k.a McKay; a.k.a. nooman; a.k.a. evourr; a.k.a. 
jtrunner) should just stop talking they are obviously the same troll that has 
been spamming this list for months now.
 
Can we please get a ban hammer around this joint.
 
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:31:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)




ROFLMAO, Ross is so stupid. Did he really take time to write all that crap, 
lmao. 
 
Ross you should unplug your computer and put it back in the box then take it 
back to Walmart. It very clear you don't know what your talking about.
 
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:28:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)




BURN
 
looks like steam commander caught you.
 
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:26:09 -0400
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)




LMAO.
 
So let us all get this straight...
 
1) You claim my accusations that  [email protected], [email protected], 
[email protected], [email protected] are untraceable.
2) You state that 'Throw(ing) false accusations around' will make people notice 
and thus do a follow up investigation.
3) You admit that you made false accusations in your original posting.
4) You have so much free time that you actually claim to have looked into the 
tracing of each message origin.
5) You admit that you cant confirm or deny previous accusations.
6) You invite accusation that this is just another account you use to troll 
this list.
 
 
You're a smart one aren't you(sarcasm). Microsoft and Google both provide a 
service for tracing email origin ip. If you actually knew what you were talking 
about you would already know this. It is extremely obvious that you and your 
multiple accounts only exist to troll this mailing list. I would offer the 
assumption that you are a pinion employee based on your insistent stance that 
MOTD is essential to a gamers experience and your clandestine approach towards 
proving an accusation that you admit is false in the first place.
 
May I suggest you make some use of your skills with fiction writing and create 
some game content. 
 
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:09:44 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)


  
    
  
  
    You know, if you throw accusations of
      that around, someone is bound to check and notice that you're
      lying.

      

      For instance:

      [email protected]'s last message was
      received by list.valvesoftware.com from batman.drmckay.com
      [50.115.172.11]... it was also routed through
      mail-wi0-f172.google.com supposedly first, but I can't verify that
      part of the chain.

      [email protected]'s last message was received
      by mx.google.com from 98.124.110.151

      [email protected]'s
      last message was received by BAY170-W81 [65.54.190.59] (one of
      Microsoft's mail servers) which blatantly removed the IP it
      received mail from in violation of the specs.

      [email protected]'s
      last message was received by mail-bk0-f45.google.com from
      10.204.4.205... which isn't an Internet-routable address. 
      Presumably, this is one of Google's internal servers and they are
      also blatantly removing the IP it received mail from in violation
      of the specs.

      

      Incidentally, Microsoft not including the IPs it received mail
      from is why we can't confirm or deny the previous accusation of
      3/4/5 people posting from the same address, because they were all
      from Microsoft's mail properties (Outlook, Hotmail, Live).  And as
      you've noticed, GMail is no better about this if you use its web
      interface.

      

      But feel free to accuse me of being a duplicate too, because I'm
      pretty sure you'll see that mine is received by one of Google's
      servers from IP 23.28.13.44.

      

      On 6/16/2013 8:50 PM, Steam Commander wrote:

    
    
      
      make that four accounts with the same origin ip
        [50.115.172.19], also registered to doctormckay.com...

         

        [email protected]

        [email protected]

        [email protected]

        [email protected]

         

        email origin is not the same as the mailing list, thanks for
        expressing your concern so as to make me look closer at your
        trail too.

        

         

        
          From: [email protected]

          Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 01:43:49 +0100

          To: [email protected]

          Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject)

          

          Valve's mailing list IP?

          

          On 17 June 2013 01:41, Steam
            Commander <[email protected]>
            wrote:

            
              
                speaking of single user multiple
                  accounts. it looks like [email protected],
                  [email protected],
                  and [email protected] are
                  coming from the same origin ip address. funny how that
                  works out.

                   

                  
                    From: [email protected]

                    To: [email protected]

                    Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:28:22 -0400
                    
                      

                        Subject: [hlds] (no subject)

                        

                        
                          make that five accounts

                            
                              From: [email protected]

                              To: [email protected]

                              Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:21:06 -0400

                              Subject: [hlds] (no subject)
                          
                           
                          Make that four accounts.

                            

                            
                              
                              From: [email protected]

                              To: [email protected]

                              Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 20:19:06 -0400

                              Subject: [hlds] (no subject)

                              

                              
                                Way to attack
                                    people contributing to the list!! 
                                 
                                What makes you
                                    think they are the same person?
                                    because they disagree with your
                                    wrong opinion?
                                 
                                Which one of those people said
                                  anything about "quickplay" at all? do
                                  you actually read what people write or
                                  do you just make things up in your
                                  head and respond in kind?
                                 
                                A few loud mouths do not reflect
                                  the opinions of all.
                                 
                                 
                                
                                  -----
                                    Original Message ----- 
                                  From:
                                    Evourr [[email protected]]
                                  To: Half-Life
                                      dedicated Win32 server mailing
                                      list 
                                  Sent: Sunday, June 16,
                                    2013 8:05 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2
                                    MOTD and Quickplay
                                   

                                   

                                 

                                The problem is
                                    this thread got derailed by one user
                                    with 3 subscribed accounts. (Liquid
                                    Source, Steam Commander, and Valve
                                    Monkey.)
                                 
                                Additional
                                    information added to the return of
                                    the "status" command would suit your
                                    needs.
                                 
                                The problem
                                    with your original statement is that
                                    you wanted Valve to implement a
                                    restriction on the quickplay clients
                                    so the motd was completely disabled,
                                    but you only wanted it so you could
                                    detect quickplay clients. (That's
                                    just bad practice.)
                              
                              

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