Eugh, the saigns guy. Please leave for either one of the following reasons. You've put yourself into a position where no one will listen to whatever crap you say and therefore every conversation will go nowhere, and I'm really really bad at using Thunderbird (this includes setting up custom spam filters, at least I've gotten rid of you, spam girl).

But I'm going to drop this here just as a proof of how good-hearted and community-spirited you are.
https://www.saigns.de/premium

On 05.09.2015 11:32, Andreas Grimm wrote:

We use real bots to fill empty slots. There's always something to kill.

The most servers have a bunch of players which use the favorites tab to join.

It doesn't matter if it's empty for full. Some people will be the first and they will wait for their friends.

*From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Robert Paulson
*Sent:* Saturday, September 05, 2015 11:19 AM
*To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
*Subject:* Re: [hlds] Community Servers and the Gun Mettle Update

As I already said it is not a problem in full servers.

The problem is when the server is about to fill or empty out. People sort servers by the number of players, and they will join a server with 4-5 "humans" that are actually bots on your server. And this is at a critical time when every other server only has 1-2 players on it, so they will end up joining yours first.

It makes all the difference if they stand in spawn or be controlled by a bot. If they stand in spawn, then the active players will see no one is available to kill and they will leave the empty server. If they see people running around they will be more likely to stay. And they probably think they are real humans when they are not.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Andreas Grimm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Even on full servers the amount of AFK players is quite low:

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436076195939696580/52E19E313DED1B42A08857FF1F64198F3BA86B9B/

It doesn't really matter if they stand in spawn or move around. This happens on every server.

I also could start kicking people for using Conga taunts for 60 minutes ... Could be the same argument: "Faking activity".

Players decide, what they do ...

*From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Robert Paulson
*Sent:* Saturday, September 05, 2015 10:51 AM
*To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
*Subject:* Re: [hlds] Community Servers and the Gun Mettle Update

You know that's not what I'm talking about... I'm talking about real players you are controlling with bots.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Andreas Grimm <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I guess it's clear enough that there are bots:

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436076195939633025/33DF487164DA824E57D7C6CF5B58A55A9EEBFD51/


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