This is one more reason for Valve to increase their efforts on updating VAC!
For me, anticheat is definitley a criteria for bying a multiplayer game or not 
buying it.

Punkbuster is a good one, serveradmins can do a lot by themselfs, beside 
screenshoting the clients they can set the values for GFX details and so on, 
the client is able to play with on a server etc.pp. VAC does nothing for server 
admins, I repeat: nothing! (just some work while updating servers and VAC 
doesn't want to start again ^^)

[email protected] schrieb am 17.02.06 10:59:33:
>
>
> This have been tried over and over again and always resulting in a dead
> project.
>
> Look at PB. They started out as a free anticheat. They got greedy and
> wanted to make money at their product.  After PB there where quite a
> number of anticheat systems trying to fill PB's place. CSGuard and CD was
> born in this area. I think there where about 10 different options of
> anticheat software, which rendered that they never got used and one after
> the other they all died. HLGuard and CD are those that survived. Then came
> VAC and later VAC2.
>
> Sooner or later a free AC will either die or they try to go commersial.
> Its how programmers works. They want to get payed for the time they spend
> programming. This is also the reason OpenSource projects are doomed. I
> believe the OpenSource era is soon dead. Some larger projects will
> survive, but those are not made in a real non-profit way. These will be
> supported by larger companies and the developers will get paid.
>
> /Bjorn
>
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > We should convince some programmers with (re-)writing a "real" anticheat.
> > We need a mixture of CD, HLGuard and SSClient/Server...
> >
> > The people around HLGuard may add an additional client to HLGuard as an 
> > option,
> > which is able to scan the processes on clients... I would spend a public 
> > server
> > for experimental workouts ;) I would spend some webspace for a forum or 
> > something else...
> > (but I will never have the money for paying a programmer, but Valve has, 
> > and they do nearly nothing)
> >
> > [email protected] schrieb am 17.02.06 10:15:25:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, grammaton782 wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > > --
> > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > hi folks
> > > >
> > > > first of all, this mailing list is NOT the place 2 post about vac2,
> > > > except matters of not runing or starting (bugs) vac2 or beta developing
> > > > under dedicated linux servers, not for starting a diskussion about
> > > > efficiency of this ac tool
> > >
> > > Why is this not a good place to discuss VAC2? I think its as good as
> > > anywhere else. At least it is HL related. And isnt this list for
> > > administrators running a HL server and isnt VAC a part of it?
> > >
> > > In my book this list should be able to hold any discussion that are
> > > related to running a server. And it should be a place where administrators
> > > can meet and have a discussion.
> > >
> > > /Bjorn
> > >
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