My TF2 are crashing since this update :/ Anyone else experience this? 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kyle
Sanderson
Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 3:16 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Win32
server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2/Counter-Strike: Source/Day of
Defeat: Source Updates Released

Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike: Source and Day of Defeat: Source Updates
Released Product Update - Valve Updates to Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike:
Source and Day of Defeat: Source have been released. The updates will be
applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes
include:

Source Engine Changes (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2)

Disabled signature checking to determine if it's the source of some reported
launch issues


One step forward, one step back.
Kyle.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Keeper <[email protected]> wrote:

> You cannot join a server that is secure with an unsigned plugin.
>
> It will not force unload, it will kick you.  This is not VAC bannable.
> Plugins cannot be unloaded.
>
> Bypassing the signature process will get you VAC banned, which should 
> eventually help eliminate the abusers.  VALVe is serious about getting 
> rid of this problem, and it may require updates in the future.  For 
> now it is a great first step for server owners.
>
> And for the record, the signature process is not an open one.  Only 
> certain plugins will receive the signature.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Strongburg [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2/Counter-Strike: Source/Day 
> of
> Defeat: Source Updates Released
>
> On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 02:31:32PM -0700, Craig H wrote:
> > Using non-approved plugins from this point forward will get you hit 
> > with a VAC ban.
>
> Haha, no. If I am understanding correct... if you bypass the 
> unloading, you could get VAC banned. Having them loaded - as long as 
> the game isn't modified to prevent unloading
> - you shouldn't get VAC banned.
>
> Example: if I have LSS loaded (for the record, I never would), and I 
> join a VAC secured server, the plguin will be forced unloaded, and I 
> do not risk a VAC ban. Now, if I modify the game to bypass the forced 
> unloading (sv_pure bypasser programs as an exaple), then I will 
> probably get VAC banned. Having these plugins loaded on an otherwise 
> unmodified client should NOT trigger a VAC ban.
>
>
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