No I blame you invalid protocol, thats the most logical assumption.

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Invalid Protocol <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Let's assume that there's no quickplay rule regarding respawn times, or
> even
> better, let's assume that there's no quickplay at all. What would you do?
> :)
> You would still use the default respawn times or you would mod the
> server(s)
> to have faster / instant respawn?
>
> My opinion is that many are using now the default respawn times only
> because
> Valve said so, not because they think that players want this. You should
> blame Valve for adding stupid rules, not the "malicious" server operators.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:42 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Policy of Truth: Respawn Times
>
> I can understand players frustration regarding respawn times, since they
> want to play, not wait for to play. Arena doesn't get much love due to
> this. But the regular player doesn't understand that maps do not work as
> they should witn such respawn that they expect.
>
> Also I just think it's unfair for other people who run servers to have
> these servers that have instant or faster spawn in quiickplay cycle
> along with the rest of us.
>
> -ics
>
> Gordon Reynolds kirjoitti:
> > I can see respawntimes are a hard one to easily verify, you have to join
> > the server yourself, and most new users have no concept of what a "normal
> > respawn" time is. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen people type
> > something along the lines of, "wtf is with this respawn, 20 seconds? I'm
> > out" and then just leave.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM, ics <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Last time i checked, nearly a month ago, there were several communities
> >> having multiple servers that modified respawn times. Either very fast or
> >> instant. They all were in quickplay participants. I checked and reported
> >> each one of them. I'm not sure if they are along anymore or has someone
> >> actually gone through reports and removed the servers from quickplay
> >> through penalty ban.
> >>
> >> -ics
> >>
> >> Michael Johansen kirjoitti:
> >>
> >>   I don't know whether the plugins are fixed, but I know of many people
> >>> that are not subscribed to this list, and are running an old version of
> >>> some plugin released on AM a couple of months ago which does not add
> the
> >>> tags required. I know the plugin authors have added this feature now,
> but
> >>> who knows, people might not be watching the forums for new plugins as
> most
> >>> of them are "set and forget".
> >>>
> >>>   From: [email protected]
> >>>> To:
> [email protected].**com<[email protected]>
> >>>> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:47:34 +0100
> >>>> Subject: [hlds_linux]  Policy of Truth: Respawn Times
> >>>>
> >>>> This has been brought up several times but it is only getting worse,
> >>>> this needs to be addressed.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are many quickplay-enabled servers out there that change the
> >>>> respawn times without having the 'respawntimes' sv_tag. I have used
> the
> >>>> server-report feature to bring this to Valve's attention only for
> nothing
> >>>> to happen after weeks. The amount of servers now doing this has only
> >>>> increased to the point that when a quickplay-user joins a populated
> 32/32
> >>>> server, they would complain and leave due to long respawn times (not
> >>>> realizing that other servers have fast-respawn enabled on quickplay).
> >>>>
> >>>> Are we to see any enforcement, or should we join the crowd doing this
> >>>> considering it is becoming necessary to compete and maintain the
> community.
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