I would keep using the default respawn times because it makes a huge difference in map balance?
Why is this even a question, have you ever tried to balance a map for TF2, or any game with respawn waves, or are you one of those people who, upon dying, frantically just clicks their mouse in a silent building rage in some attempt to spawn faster? On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM, DontWannaName! <[email protected]>wrote: > No I blame you invalid protocol, thats the most logical assumption. > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Invalid Protocol < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Let's assume that there's no quickplay rule regarding respawn times, or > > even > > better, let's assume that there's no quickplay at all. What would you do? > > :) > > You would still use the default respawn times or you would mod the > > server(s) > > to have faster / instant respawn? > > > > My opinion is that many are using now the default respawn times only > > because > > Valve said so, not because they think that players want this. You should > > blame Valve for adding stupid rules, not the "malicious" server > operators. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ics > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:42 PM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Policy of Truth: Respawn Times > > > > I can understand players frustration regarding respawn times, since they > > want to play, not wait for to play. Arena doesn't get much love due to > > this. But the regular player doesn't understand that maps do not work as > > they should witn such respawn that they expect. > > > > Also I just think it's unfair for other people who run servers to have > > these servers that have instant or faster spawn in quiickplay cycle > > along with the rest of us. > > > > -ics > > > > Gordon Reynolds kirjoitti: > > > I can see respawntimes are a hard one to easily verify, you have to > join > > > the server yourself, and most new users have no concept of what a > "normal > > > respawn" time is. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen people > type > > > something along the lines of, "wtf is with this respawn, 20 seconds? > I'm > > > out" and then just leave. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM, ics <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Last time i checked, nearly a month ago, there were several > communities > > >> having multiple servers that modified respawn times. Either very fast > or > > >> instant. They all were in quickplay participants. I checked and > reported > > >> each one of them. I'm not sure if they are along anymore or has > someone > > >> actually gone through reports and removed the servers from quickplay > > >> through penalty ban. > > >> > > >> -ics > > >> > > >> Michael Johansen kirjoitti: > > >> > > >> I don't know whether the plugins are fixed, but I know of many > people > > >>> that are not subscribed to this list, and are running an old version > of > > >>> some plugin released on AM a couple of months ago which does not add > > the > > >>> tags required. I know the plugin authors have added this feature now, > > but > > >>> who knows, people might not be watching the forums for new plugins as > > most > > >>> of them are "set and forget". > > >>> > > >>> From: [email protected] > > >>>> To: > > [email protected].**com<[email protected]> > > >>>> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:47:34 +0100 > > >>>> Subject: [hlds_linux] Policy of Truth: Respawn Times > > >>>> > > >>>> This has been brought up several times but it is only getting worse, > > >>>> this needs to be addressed. > > >>>> > > >>>> There are many quickplay-enabled servers out there that change the > > >>>> respawn times without having the 'respawntimes' sv_tag. I have used > > the > > >>>> server-report feature to bring this to Valve's attention only for > > nothing > > >>>> to happen after weeks. The amount of servers now doing this has only > > >>>> increased to the point that when a quickplay-user joins a populated > > 32/32 > > >>>> server, they would complain and leave due to long respawn times (not > > >>>> realizing that other servers have fast-respawn enabled on > quickplay). > > >>>> > > >>>> Are we to see any enforcement, or should we join the crowd doing > this > > >>>> considering it is becoming necessary to compete and maintain the > > community. > > >>>> > > >>>> ______________________________**_________________ > > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >>>> please visit: > > >>>> > > https://list.valvesoftware. > > **com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux<https > > ://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > > >>>> > > >>> ______________________________**_________________ > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >>> please visit: > > >>> > > https://list.valvesoftware. > > **com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux<https > > ://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > > >>> > > >> > > >> ______________________________**_________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> > > https://list.valvesoftware. > > **com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linux<https > > ://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- - Gordon Reynolds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
