I agree with Robert. I've been playing Overwatch recently and when it's fully released I doubt I'll play TF2 anymore. Blizzard appears to acknowledge feedback from my initial observations where Valve no longer seems to be and appears to have not done so for a long time, unfortunately, which isn't good.
On 10 May 2016 at 08:24, Robert Paulson <[email protected]> wrote: > Well congratulations for being a special little snowflake? Now shut up if > you are not going to say anything useful in a thread related to community > server issues, in a mailing list specifically made for community server > issues, instead of telling us to go to a forum where no Valve employee ever > reads. > > I am willing to bet most of us here are/were part of communities that did > not host on lowest quality $5 servers. We remember a time when community > servers were filled for 12 hours a day, every single day of the week. > > It seems like you only started your server in the past year or so since you > don't know that countless solutions have already been offered and that > community servers used to have many more players. There's nothing left to > do but to call out Valve on their inaction and total alienation and > betrayal to their community server players/customers. > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Aaron Thompson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > And i pay $5/month for my server so im not crying so much. I can afford > to > > be patient. > > On May 10, 2016 12:51 AM, "Aaron Thompson" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Never played quickplay, don't ever intend to, my only gripe was after > > > free2play and it lasted like 5 minutes. I can honestly say that I have > no > > > way to contribute to this arguement. However, I CAN say that instead > of a > > > bitchfest...why dont you all find a solution that is viable and present > > it > > > to them. If that wad done already, again I do not know anything in > > regards > > > to this situation. They have continuously updated the game with new and > > > user created content, nerfing and otherwise and the only problem I have > > is > > > with a certain population of players who ruin the game for everyone > > > else...and NO I dont just mean LMAObox users. If anyone killed TF2 it > is > > a > > > percentage of the people who choose to spend their time there making > the > > > game unplayable. > > > On May 10, 2016 12:05 AM, "Eli Witt" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Awww, are you ou mad that people who've invested countless hundreds of > > >> hours and personal dollars into running Valve's game for them have a > > >> legitimate complaint against valve for acting like a bunch of ignorant > > >> douchebags? > > >> > > >> You can feel free to unsubscrive too. > > >> > > >> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Aaron Thompson <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Can you all go rant somewhere else. Some of us don't have your > > problems. > > >> > They have forums for a reason please use them or email them > directly. > > >> > On May 9, 2016 8:14 PM, "Robert Paulson" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Why could you not blame Valve? They are 100% fully to blame for > the > > >> > current > > >> > > state of community servers. I am not sure why you think they had > no > > >> > choice > > >> > > and no one should complain. > > >> > > > > >> > > You cannot expect every single random person to follow the rules. > > Did > > >> > Valve > > >> > > close free2play because servers are being plagued with hackers > using > > >> > > lmaobox and making a new account in 20 seconds? No? Then why are > all > > >> > > community servers being punished for this identical situation? > > >> > > > > >> > > The TF2 team was extremely lazy in handling this matter, not even > > >> willing > > >> > > to spend 1 hour a month cleaning up reported servers, and decided > to > > >> > "fix" > > >> > > the issue by essentially giving up. All they had to do was ban a > few > > >> > > servers every month taking up less than an hour of their time. > Even > > if > > >> > they > > >> > > cannot get rid of cheating 100%, it would still be better than > what > > >> they > > >> > > are doing now. > > >> > > > > >> > > All we can hope for now is that Overwatch kills TF2 to show them a > > >> > lesson, > > >> > > but they would probably just keep trying to emulate Overwatch as > > much > > >> as > > >> > > possible rather than reversing all the decisions they made to kill > > >> > > community servers. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Erik-jan Riemers < > > [email protected]> > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > TF2 had its best time... it would have been longer if not for > > this. > > >> As > > >> > a > > >> > > > community owner for 8+ years i have always tried to do good by > the > > >> > rules > > >> > > of > > >> > > > Valve. Only to find tons of servers that don't obey those rules. > > >> Valve > > >> > > > tried its best to counter them but ended up hurting the > > communities > > >> > that > > >> > > > didn't do anything wrong. I can't blame Valve, but the > experience > > is > > >> > bad > > >> > > > these days, we used to have a "all maps" server where high > > division > > >> > > players > > >> > > > would come and play, making it interesting for people with > skills. > > >> > Only a > > >> > > > few 'custom' servers are still alive these days, but haunted by > > >> > cheaters > > >> > > > and people that just want to troll and mic spam. No admins are > > there > > >> > > > anymore because nobody wants to babysit a server full of kids. > > >> Slowly > > >> > > > closing my TF2 servers. (It's been fun while it lasted) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Regardless, thanks Valve for the times we did have a great > > >> experience > > >> > for > > >> > > > community's. Perhaps one day we might see a TF3. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 2016-05-05 0:48 GMT+02:00 Vivien FRENOT-MATHEVON < > > >> > > [email protected] > > >> > > > >: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Still waiting for a fix. :( > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Le jeu. 5 mai 2016 00:11, Andreas Willinger <[email protected]> a > > >> écrit : > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > So, Valve, maybe you should update your Wiki and add > > >> "temporary" as > > >> > > > > > "forever" ( > > https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time) > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Two years, various suggestions have been posted, like > > improving > > >> the > > >> > > UI, > > >> > > > > > some > > >> > > > > > sort of verified server system and others, yet not even a > > single > > >> > word > > >> > > > > from > > >> > > > > > Valve. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Can we finally get some sort of response or will we wait > until > > >> TF2 > > >> > is > > >> > > > > > entirely full of braindead, 12 year-old weekend warriors. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Original text for anyone interested: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > "At this time, we are keeping the default quickplay option > to > > >> Valve > > >> > > > > > servers. > > >> > > > > > However, note that if a player wants to find a server with > any > > >> of > > >> > the > > >> > > > > > supported modifications, then they must land on a community > > >> server, > > >> > > > since > > >> > > > > > Valve servers do not run with these settings." > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Posted by Fletcher Dunn on February 8, 2014. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> > > archives, > > >> > > > > > please visit: > > >> > > > > > > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> > archives, > > >> > > > > please visit: > > >> > > > > > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> archives, > > >> > > > please visit: > > >> > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > >> > > please visit: > > >> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >> > please visit: > > >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
