I remember the day we had 300+ euro a month, from donations "random people" without the need of those **** ads. (and yes that all went to servers)
Anyways, if Valve just had something like: New players play for xx hours on Valve server then they would be put to the community servers. Or a popup that asks the user "do you want to switch to community servers?" or at least have 2 buttons on the main screen "quickplay valve/quickplay community" or something like that since they basicly pushed community servers away onto the server tab where new players just don't look. Not to mention that all the restrictions Valve put in place to stop the bad guys, or bad hosters only made those guy change tactic but still exist today. But it hurt the right people, destroying their effort into their free community, non ads, non cheaters. Honestly, even if Valve says today "Your right, we will change it right now" i think it will be too late to get an active rush of people back into the game. New games came out and people move on too. Overwatch is a half copy of TF2, sentry's , push a payload etc etc.. but even that could wander of pretty fast.. why? Because i do believe the community with the sourcemodding on top of it made TF2 big. Never seen so many mods, same for css and the other srcds titles. Anyways, if you take things in comparison, how many people still support a game this old? Perhaps they just know its a dead end and only support minimum intrest and focus on other things like their platform itself. Short story, they made enough cash on this cow.. perhaps its time to butcher it so we can get some dry aged meat for later :P 2016-05-10 9:29 GMT+02:00 Paul <[email protected]>: > I agree with Robert. I've been playing Overwatch recently and when it's > fully released I doubt I'll play TF2 anymore. Blizzard appears to > acknowledge feedback from my initial observations where Valve no longer > seems to be and appears to have not done so for a long time, unfortunately, > which isn't good. > > On 10 May 2016 at 08:24, Robert Paulson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Well congratulations for being a special little snowflake? Now shut up if > > you are not going to say anything useful in a thread related to community > > server issues, in a mailing list specifically made for community server > > issues, instead of telling us to go to a forum where no Valve employee > ever > > reads. > > > > I am willing to bet most of us here are/were part of communities that did > > not host on lowest quality $5 servers. We remember a time when community > > servers were filled for 12 hours a day, every single day of the week. > > > > It seems like you only started your server in the past year or so since > you > > don't know that countless solutions have already been offered and that > > community servers used to have many more players. There's nothing left to > > do but to call out Valve on their inaction and total alienation and > > betrayal to their community server players/customers. > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Aaron Thompson <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > And i pay $5/month for my server so im not crying so much. I can afford > > to > > > be patient. > > > On May 10, 2016 12:51 AM, "Aaron Thompson" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Never played quickplay, don't ever intend to, my only gripe was after > > > > free2play and it lasted like 5 minutes. I can honestly say that I > have > > no > > > > way to contribute to this arguement. However, I CAN say that instead > > of a > > > > bitchfest...why dont you all find a solution that is viable and > present > > > it > > > > to them. If that wad done already, again I do not know anything in > > > regards > > > > to this situation. They have continuously updated the game with new > and > > > > user created content, nerfing and otherwise and the only problem I > have > > > is > > > > with a certain population of players who ruin the game for everyone > > > > else...and NO I dont just mean LMAObox users. If anyone killed TF2 it > > is > > > a > > > > percentage of the people who choose to spend their time there making > > the > > > > game unplayable. > > > > On May 10, 2016 12:05 AM, "Eli Witt" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Awww, are you ou mad that people who've invested countless hundreds > of > > > >> hours and personal dollars into running Valve's game for them have a > > > >> legitimate complaint against valve for acting like a bunch of > ignorant > > > >> douchebags? > > > >> > > > >> You can feel free to unsubscrive too. > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Aaron Thompson <[email protected] > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Can you all go rant somewhere else. Some of us don't have your > > > problems. > > > >> > They have forums for a reason please use them or email them > > directly. > > > >> > On May 9, 2016 8:14 PM, "Robert Paulson" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > Why could you not blame Valve? They are 100% fully to blame for > > the > > > >> > current > > > >> > > state of community servers. I am not sure why you think they had > > no > > > >> > choice > > > >> > > and no one should complain. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > You cannot expect every single random person to follow the > rules. > > > Did > > > >> > Valve > > > >> > > close free2play because servers are being plagued with hackers > > using > > > >> > > lmaobox and making a new account in 20 seconds? No? Then why are > > all > > > >> > > community servers being punished for this identical situation? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The TF2 team was extremely lazy in handling this matter, not > even > > > >> willing > > > >> > > to spend 1 hour a month cleaning up reported servers, and > decided > > to > > > >> > "fix" > > > >> > > the issue by essentially giving up. All they had to do was ban a > > few > > > >> > > servers every month taking up less than an hour of their time. > > Even > > > if > > > >> > they > > > >> > > cannot get rid of cheating 100%, it would still be better than > > what > > > >> they > > > >> > > are doing now. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > All we can hope for now is that Overwatch kills TF2 to show > them a > > > >> > lesson, > > > >> > > but they would probably just keep trying to emulate Overwatch as > > > much > > > >> as > > > >> > > possible rather than reversing all the decisions they made to > kill > > > >> > > community servers. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Erik-jan Riemers < > > > [email protected]> > > > >> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > TF2 had its best time... it would have been longer if not for > > > this. > > > >> As > > > >> > a > > > >> > > > community owner for 8+ years i have always tried to do good by > > the > > > >> > rules > > > >> > > of > > > >> > > > Valve. Only to find tons of servers that don't obey those > rules. > > > >> Valve > > > >> > > > tried its best to counter them but ended up hurting the > > > communities > > > >> > that > > > >> > > > didn't do anything wrong. I can't blame Valve, but the > > experience > > > is > > > >> > bad > > > >> > > > these days, we used to have a "all maps" server where high > > > division > > > >> > > players > > > >> > > > would come and play, making it interesting for people with > > skills. > > > >> > Only a > > > >> > > > few 'custom' servers are still alive these days, but haunted > by > > > >> > cheaters > > > >> > > > and people that just want to troll and mic spam. No admins are > > > there > > > >> > > > anymore because nobody wants to babysit a server full of kids. > > > >> Slowly > > > >> > > > closing my TF2 servers. (It's been fun while it lasted) > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Regardless, thanks Valve for the times we did have a great > > > >> experience > > > >> > for > > > >> > > > community's. Perhaps one day we might see a TF3. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 2016-05-05 0:48 GMT+02:00 Vivien FRENOT-MATHEVON < > > > >> > > [email protected] > > > >> > > > >: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Still waiting for a fix. :( > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Le jeu. 5 mai 2016 00:11, Andreas Willinger <[email protected]> > a > > > >> écrit : > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > So, Valve, maybe you should update your Wiki and add > > > >> "temporary" as > > > >> > > > > > "forever" ( > > > https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time) > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Two years, various suggestions have been posted, like > > > improving > > > >> the > > > >> > > UI, > > > >> > > > > > some > > > >> > > > > > sort of verified server system and others, yet not even a > > > single > > > >> > word > > > >> > > > > from > > > >> > > > > > Valve. > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Can we finally get some sort of response or will we wait > > until > > > >> TF2 > > > >> > is > > > >> > > > > > entirely full of braindead, 12 year-old weekend warriors. > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Original text for anyone interested: > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > "At this time, we are keeping the default quickplay option > > to > > > >> Valve > > > >> > > > > > servers. > > > >> > > > > > However, note that if a player wants to find a server with > > any > > > >> of > > > >> > the > > > >> > > > > > supported modifications, then they must land on a > community > > > >> server, > > > >> > > > since > > > >> > > > > > Valve servers do not run with these settings." > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Posted by Fletcher Dunn on February 8, 2014. > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > >> > > archives, > > > >> > > > > > please visit: > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >> > archives, > > > >> > > > > please visit: > > > >> > > > > > > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > >> archives, > > > >> > > > please visit: > > > >> > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > >> > > please visit: > > > >> > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >> > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >> > please visit: > > > >> > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > >> please visit: > > > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
