This last post is right on about both the DJ130 and the Z2100. I use 
both.  The lack of a tray and a sheet feed system that is really an 
afterthought is what you get with the Z-series.  While the 130 tray 
is not the greatest it does work all the way up to the biggest sheets 
in a stack for a 24'' width.  The 130 will work with canvas but that 
is not the strength. However if you are really budjet constrained the 
130 will do what you want but the Zs really excell at this kind of 
media.

--- In [email protected], "toasterboy66" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], 
> "dr_defecto" <mr_ieus@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone - new member to the forum!
> > 
> >
> 
> Hi There, I'm new too, I deal with and support Designjets 
> professionally in central Europe.
> 
> 
> I'd stay away from 130 for this kind of application, the Z2100 is 
the 
> way to go, if you add up all the accessoires to bring the 130 up to 
> spec, you'll be rather close to the 24' Z2100 anyway, if you plan 
on 
> using HP consumables the larger cartridges of the Z might even save 
> you some money in the long run.
> I'd stay away from CISS, not worth it unless you are running a 
> serious production, and when printing on such expensive media, ink 
> costs are less of a factor anyway, esp. if you have to repeat 
> printouts because of colour issues, which is almost always a 
concern 
> with 3rd party inks.
> 
> The 130 chassis was never really build for handling canvas, yes it 
> can take rather thick paper from the rear paper paths, but after 
all, 
> it's a jumped up buiseness Inkjet, so fine art printing was never 
> really the focus when designing it.
> The Z-series chassis on the other hand was designed exactly for 
this 
> kind of thing, much more reliable.
> Also, the pigmented inks of the Z are a huge plus, esp. on canvas, 
> laminating goes against the idea of using canvas in the first place 
> and spray on solutions are rather ineffective on this kind of 
porous 
> media.
> And if you are using a rip, support for Media (ICC profiles) is 
much 
> better on the Z, both, from HP and 3rd parties, as are the 
profiling 
> options, another important consideration.
> 
> The only thing the 130 has really going for it is the Paper tray 
(not 
> suited for fine art papers).
> If you can do without it, i'd try to bite the bullet and go for the 
> small Z. 
> Large format printing will never be cheap, however pinching pennies 
> at the wrong end might make it really expensive.
> 
> As for the 5000, it's a great machine, unfortunately some spares 
are 
> hard to come by these days, but its a serious production printer 
> anyway so it's probably 2 sizes too big for your needs.
>



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