On Wednesday, 11 July 2018 at  8:29:20 -0400, Robert Krawitz wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 14:15:19 +1000, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 10 July 2018 at  8:10:08 -0700, Albert Szostkiewicz wrote:
>>> As much as I wish to stay with Linux (which is my main operating
>>> system) and Hougin Open software, currently I am forced to run PtGui
>>> via wine to do my job as expected.
>>
>> Note that the Unix (and thus Linux) way is to have multiple programs,
>> each able to perform one function and perform it well.  It looks like
>> you're looking for the opposite.
>
> The "UNIX/Linux way" also allows for scripts and other ways to combine
> separate tools into one from the user perspective.

Yes, of course.

> If I have a complex pipeline of operations I want to perform I don't
> have to remember them and run them all by hand; I can use a script
> to do that for me.

Yes, that's exactly what I do.  And also make(1), of course.

>>> It streamlines simple work that has to be done without requirement
>>> of 3rd party software in the process.
>>
>> It still requires mouse pushing.  If you're looking for automatic raw
>> conversions, you can do that too with UFRaw, which has a batch mode.
>> Read in your images, run ufraw-batch on them to produce TIFF output
>> files, and you're ready to go.
>
> One less step, though.

That depends.  We're looking at a single step.  I have a script that
reads in files from the camera, only actually transferring files that
aren't already there.  It would be trivial to augment it to put it
through something like dcraw, if I thought that mindless conversion of
images made sense.

> Other than the work required (which may be non-trivial, balanced
> against the fact that the Hugin developers have other things they
> want to do, not to mention lives outside of Hugin), there's no
> reason Hugin couldn't do the same thing.

In fact, I'm working in exactly the opposite direction, writing
scripts that automate more and more of what Hugin does.  But yes,
possibly the option of starting a raw converter of your choice might
make sense.

>> Just checked https://www.ptgui.com/features.html: yes, PTGui uses
>> dcraw to convert the images.  That's the same program that's behind
>> UFRaw.  The difference with Linux is that you have a choice of raw
>> conversion tools, and that's one of the main reasons for using raw
>> images in the first place.
>
> False dichotomy; there's nothing preventing someone from using a
> separate tool to convert the RAWs into TIFFs or JPEGs and invoking
> PTGui on those.

Of course not, but that misses the point: the original poster wanted
PTGui just for the raw conversion functionality.  If he uses a
standalone program to do the conversion, then he can use Hugin and
doesn't need PTGui.

Greg
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