I don't want to sound warlike--especially in today's political climate--but 
vendors have always expected customers to diagnose their own APF problems. 
'Tact' is often a matter of delivering uncomfortable news gently and 
empathetically. As others have said, the requirements for APF concatenation 
were invented to protect the customer, not to annoy or vex.

In short, all products we buy for mainframe come with the same caveat.  

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Charles Mills
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (External):Re: Which STEPLIB concatenation is not authorized?

Thanks @Gil, I think you get where I am trying to go with this.

It's not that I don't know how to use TESTAUTH or think TESTAUTH is giving me 
the wrong answer. But now what? We say "one or more of your datasets is 
apparently not authorized" and the customer says "WE TOLD YOU THEY ARE ALL 
AUTHORIZED!" Now what does the poor support tech do? Say "Issue a 'D PROG,APF' 
and check all the libraries -- it's not rocket surgery!"

Would YOU buy a product from a vendor that talked to you like that?

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Which STEPLIB concatenation is not authorized?

On 2016-11-19, at 15:32, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> 
> As complicated this may sound, APF can be determined/diagnosed by
inspection with relative ease. It's not rocket surgery.    
>  
Perhaps.  But it would be poor business practice for the OP to address his 
customer so tactlessly.  IBM ought to help its customers to help their 
customers.

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