? That's pretty standard in every mainframe license contract I've ever seen. Source escrow is a major PITA to do, but I've always had to do it for just this reason.
OK, wait. Not for a product that gets sunsetted; that's an oversight in contracts! But for vendors that die, it's in the contract. /me notes to update contracts for any mainframe software HE'S involved in buying in the future... On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:53 AM, John McKown <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 3:00 AM, Dave Wade <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am going to say something you gentlemen may not like... > > > > 1) Do you need the product? > > 2) Do you need continued support, e.g. for legal and compliance reasons? > > 3) is the company in financial difficulties? > > > > If the answer to all these is "yes" then paying the increased charges may > > be your best option. If the company folds or files for protection it > > matters not how many bits of paper you have, if there is no business to > > honor the contracts you have then replacing the product may be much more > > expensive. In my humble IBM is the biggest player of these sorts of games > > and is doing an excellent job of squeezing the last drop of blood from > its > > traditional mainframe customers.. > > > > .. and throwing lawyers at a problem usually drives the costs up even > > more... > > > > I think you have some very valid points. I don't think that _any_ software > company offers the following "option", but it is one that I'd like. What I > _wish_ every company would "require" from a vendor is that should the > vendor either "go out of business" or "sunset a product", that the customer > would get a copy of the current source for the product, along with all > internal documentation. No, I have not been taking any "funny pills". I do > realize that perhaps all of the current z/OS vendors would like like hyenas > if anyone asked this of them. Which is yet another reason that I am a FOSS > advocate. An individual company might not be able to support "some > product", but the "community" could possibly do so. > > > > > > > Dave Wade > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > -- > "Irrigation of the land with seawater desalinated by fusion power is > ancient. It's called 'rain'." -- Michael McClary, in alt.fusion > > Maranatha! <>< > John McKown > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
