Very good point Mark. To answer some of the points that you have made here, the exterior brightwork has been sanded down, cleaned and had 3 coats of Cetol natural this spring, the diesel has 520 hrs and runs very smooth,new heat exchanger, hoses and vented loop last year as well as a flush of the fresh water cooling system. The roller furling 135 genoa is brand new and has fewer than 6hrs sailing time on it, the bottom was painted this spring and there is no indication that there were ever any blisters, nor is ther a Catalina smile at the keel. The hull is waxed and the decks show no cracking or soft spots. The rigging upgrades available from Catalina Direct have been installed ( spreader mounts, chainplate reinforcement, deck cleat backers) The interior is beautiful, all cushions and upholstery are in excellent shape and all interior wood was fed with lemon oil this spring to keep it looking good,newly installed Origo 3000 with gimbals which replaced the old pressurized alcohol stove, pressurized fresh water system in galley and head, anchor,chain and rope rode, dodger, winter cover, brand new dsc vhf, am/fm/cd, brand new Ritchie binacle compass, etc etc etc. Ultimately, the true value of the boat is the enjoyment derived by its owner. This boat is ready to board, load with food and beverages, and sail off for a few hours or a few weeks with out a worry about how it has been set up or maintained. If someone is interested, take a look, that doesn't cost a thing. Make an offer if you like what you see. If you think I am off my rocker, let me know. I will take it under advisement and head out sailing. Jeff
--- In [email protected], Mark Akerman <akerma...@...> wrote: > > Less than two years ago I paid over 13k for an 83 C27 with new bottom job, > topside and deck paint, newly varnished brightwork, low hour diesel and new > mainsail with furler and three headsails including spinnaker. There are so > many factors that I don't see anyone discussing. When was the last bottom > paint? Ever have a blister job. Interior condition? How many hours on that > inboard? What goodies are thrown in? ANchors? Stainless steel grill? > Heater? Dodger, Bimini?......... >  > I paid what I paid for mine becuase it was freshly refurbished and I would > have very little maintenance for the next 3 years. Obviously, market is > also important. >  > Just like cars...... there's a 73 Chevy that is a rust bucket, and a 73 Chevy > that is cherry original, or one that has had a full restoration. They sure > aren't all gonna be the same price or the same condition. >  > Some people enjoy working on their boats. I enjoy sailing mine! So, I > paid for the labor someone else had put into it. For me, it's not a > bargain if it is a huge work project. But I'm LAZY! :-) >  > Mark A > Mad Hatter > C27 #5306 > Portland, OR > > --- On Sun, 7/11/10, John Daily <mediahound2...@...> wrote: > > > From: John Daily <mediahound2...@...> > Subject: Re: [IC27A] Re: Stardust hull #5641 for sale > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 10:37 AM > > >  > > > > > > I'm not comparing a 78 with an 84. Here's an 82 for a bit more than half. > > > http://easternshore .craigslist. org/boa/18273643 76.html > > > > > She's clean, well maintained and the owners will probably end up taking > $5-7k. The market is what the market is. > > > > > From: Ralph Ahseln <rahs...@comcast. net> > To: ic...@yahoogroups. com > Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 12:39:46 PM > Subject: Re: [IC27A] Re: Stardust hull #5641 for sale > >  > > > Wait a minute ! >  > You mean to tell me that a Mid 1980's boat with an inboard diesel with lots > of additions . Goes for the SAME price as.... >  an Older 1978... Outboard ..Basic Catalina 27 ? >  > I don't know about what's going on in some regions of the world, but one > only has to look at the listings in YachtWorld.com to see > That 1980's boats are listed from between 10,000 and 19,000 .. and in a lot > of locations. > A further look shows that the... 1970's.... are going for a lot less, for > sure. >  > Really, Is the market so depressed that there's NO difference in > price between the models when SELLING ? > I'm sorry but it doesn't make sense to me ... > Comparing prices for a 1978 with a 1984 and coming up with "similar boats are > selling for a third of 15,500 "  Huh ? >  > Will they get their asking prices ? I don't know, but I sure think that > asking for $ 15K and maybe settling on a couple thou Less would make a lot > more sense..... Than asking $ 5,000 (as was suggested) just to sell it off. >  > Where did I go wrong ? >  > Ralph Ahseln > "Oblio" > Lying: Portland OR > > > >  >
