Dear Mr. Partha Pratim Ghosh
I feel you have taken my points in very wrong way. I
like Linux --- as a better and easier Unix flavour and
great platform. I respect the Linux Community as I
repsect myself.
I have experience in SSI and fortunatly I worked on
DOS, Unix, Novell Netware, Windows equally in last
eight years. As developer and as administrator both.
And practically I learnt to use this by lighting my
nights and putting my days togehter. So please do not
suspect that you are talking to so called "stupid"
person who (you think) is asking really practical
things to "Techie Linuxer" like you . Dear, Gone are
those days when knowledge was under behold of one
community,wake up it is internet age where knowledge
is avaliable on the finger tips to everybody.
First thing every good thing has a bad side that is
why it gets more and more attractive. If bright day
does not have dark night can human race be alive. So
these are some practicality in the linux. And I
strongly feel that if these definicines are removed it
will be at the top of the world, where I really wants
to see it.
I bent upon user friendliness,because if you really
see with your mind open, we came up from keyboards to
mouse to voice recongintion in user interface
technology. While programing switched from structed
moduler way - to object based - to object oriented and
currently putting at component base methodology. See
how internet came up with HTML slick thin form
objects. So this is all the result of simplicity and
improves userfriendliness. Would you ignore this
improvements in IT industry?
Well, I agree with your point of beauty in the
diffence.
Another point is man pages. Tell me how intutive is
it?
Can you get a list of all man pages avaliable???? Do
not tell me to use ls on /usr/doc.
Last point, the person who is talking of revoultion
cannot be static. I feel you are not able to read
correctly all the things. Dear,do not get passionful
for the sake just it is. Preserve it for some real
world.
I choose to leave the "community" where you can say
everything is open but does not bear the real
truth,does not want to know definicies.
With best wishes
Ankush
--- Partha Pratim Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Dear Ankush,
>
> Here are my points.
>
> ******Point 2: Can only tech wizards keep hold of
> these
> ******precious Unix Machniene and why not the common
> person.
> ******Why should not?
>
> The "common person" is not quite expected to do
> "much good work"
> with the machine. If one intends to do some "good
> work" with his achine
> he ceases to be a "common person" anymore. (How can
> one person remain a
> stupid and yet have continuous blissful knowledge at
> the same time ?)
> And if he is no more a common person, then your
> question does not stand.
>
> ******Point 3: Is Linux userfriendly? I am person
> with eight
> ******years experience in Industry. And still
> struggling to
> ******get X-windows up and running. Is it fault of
> my years
> ******earned experience and knowledge or non-user
> ******friendliness of Linux?
>
> I can say many things over here, starting from the
> kind of
> Industry (SSI ??) to the kind of experience upto the
> correctness of the
> hypothesis that you DID REALLY try to set X-windows
> up. Instead let me
> point out one fact very plainly : Linux is NO MORE
> UNFRIENDLY WITH THE
> INTRODUCTION OF DISTRIBUTIONS LIKE RedHat, Debian
> etc. Also here are
> some of the resources from where you may obtain
> help. Since I do
> not exactly the kind of failures that you had from
> your sincere efforts,
> please read up the necessary documents from : 1.
> various README files in
> /usr/lib/X11/doc; 2. Other files for other
> information, for instance,
> BUILD file says how to build XFree86 from source,
> AccelCards lists all
> the accelerated cards that are supported,
> Quickstart.doc is a very quick
> introduction on how to setup X, Devices, Monitors
> are nice examples and
> the like. (I have assumed, that since you are so
> much bent upon the
> feature of user-friendliness, you have or can get
> hold of the latest
> RedHat distribution, although which does not have
> the latest stable
> kernel.)
>
> ******Point -4: What about online instantly
> avaliable help
> ******in Linux?
>
> There are various man-pages, as they call; they are
> situated in
> /usr/doc directory. Please read up before making
> spurious comments.
>
> ******Point-5: Why should I have to move from one
> site to
> ******another begging for the support for Linux? and
> nobody
> ******answers correctly for the solution.
>
> I have learnt much from such postings and do still
> wish to learn
> more in this way. The actual problem is not in your
> begging for help in
> different sites but in the whole attitude. The
> question is : to learn to
> stand on one's own feet or to remain on other's
> shoulders and make a
> mess with complaints.
>
> ******Point -6: Why there is lots of versions and
> ******variations, different providers and
> incompatiblities
> ******in Linux itself?why Linux eventhough open and
> free not
> ******able to be uninque and having one standard?
> ******
>
> It is only things beautiful that are obtained in so
> many colors,
> shapes and thus with so many variations. So the
> Linuxers know none-else
> than to appreciate and carry on reproducing
> beauty...
>
> There is only one thing which in its own rights IS
> unique :
> blindness.
>
> ******Point -7: Last but not least , the open
> standard group
> ******not able to come up with clear cut solution
> for those
> ******companies who cry for open stadards but want
> to keep
> ******technologies under there control ( here I mean
> Java -
> ******Sun Microsystems)?
> ******
>
> Again please read up before making comments.
>
> The Linux community is small but in its essence is
> dynamic and
> there is no place for someone in this community,
> therefore, who prefers
> to be static.
>
> Partha Pratim Ghosh
> Rev. Goreaux Centre for Higher Mathematics
> Department of Mathematics
> St. Xavier's College
> 30 Park Street
> Calcutta 700016
>
>
>
>
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