RE: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac

[Dan Barker]

Caca.   .Net has objects (like buttons, grids, listboxes, etc.) you drag to the "page" in the IDE, and they render code. No HTML must be crafted (if you follow the tutorials - AND - you don't particularly want portable nor efficient code). .Net builds all the code for you, and it's very MicrosoftCentric code. If you code your own HTML, then the rules are the same as any other environment, Cold Fusion, Front Page, Dreamweaver, whatever.   It's the "party line" coding practices that build the junk web pages.   Dan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ted Daniels Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 12:12 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac Hey Martin:   I am a CF exponent as well, and use it heavily for targeted e-mail distribution using I-Mail. Apart from ASP.net taking 5 times as long to code any application compared with CF, there should be no difference in the end result. Therefore ,net in general is a big kludge designed to capture the VB users and must have some other inefficiencies carefully crafted into it that I am unware of, if it is causing other users problems.   Ted Daniels   BTW I guess CF may soon become part of Adobe if they buy Macromedia. Should make for an interesting addition in the area of document security. ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Schaible To: Darin Cox Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac Hi, So far i know, creating or generating good html/css/dhtml is not a matter of the middleware (e.g. .net, php, coldfusion) you use. I'm more related to coldfusion, an therefore not eperienced with any members of programming languages of .net. This might by the reason, for my silly question ;-) So, what is the problem with .net relating to the client's html/css/dhtml part of an application? ============================================ Am Sonntag, 6. November 2005 um 16:03 schrieben Sie: > Yep. Grid layouts are still a problem though.  Scrapping those and going with Flow/table layouts with limited divs has worked best for us.  We usually do our mockups outside of .NET for initial layout testing, then bring them in and add the backend code. Darin.     ----- Original Message -----  From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com  Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac Darin,   I am sure you probably have already done this, but by adding the browsercaps extension in your web.config it goes along way to fixing a lot of the layout issues with Mozilla/Firefox/Netscape/etc.   Darrell ------------------------------------------- invURIBL - Intelligent URI Filtering for Declude, mxGuard, and ORF.  Stops SPAM by focusing on the spamvertised link.  More effective than traditional RBL's.  Download a copy today - http://www.invariantsystems.com ----- Original Message -----  From: Darin Cox  To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com  Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac Very true... .NET by default is _extremely_ IE-centric.  In my mind .NET encourages poor layout techniques with the grid layout.  If you've ever created a simple .NET web app without changing the layout, and then tried to view it in NS, FF, or Moz, you know what I mean.  It works a bit better in Opera, but I won't go into Opera's rendering problems...   So, best bet is to scrap what .NET tries to lead you to, and use what you already know works for web layout. Darin.     ----- Original Message -----  From: Bud Durland  To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com  Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] IMail 2006 WebMail w/o Mac Do I understand correctly that IMail's WebMail now run on IIS, with .net roots?  Most likely, therein lies the cause of cross platform woes. --  ---------------------------------------------------------- I'm in my own little world.  But that's OK,  because they all know me here.  ============================================ --    Mit freundlichen Grüssen -------------------------------------------- Merlin Consulting Martin Schaible Bahnhofstrasse 27 CH-8702 Zollikon Phone:   +41 44 391 30 00 Fax:     +41 44 391 32 49 Mail:    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:     http://www.merlinconsulting.ch Support: http://support.merlinconsulting.ch GPS:     N47 20.235 E8 34.226 -------------------------------------------- News - Neue Produkte: .:. NOD32 Antivirus System .:. BlueDragon .:. Kiwi Syslog Monitor .:. Paessler GmbH .:. Sawmill Loganalyzer .:. SmarterTools -------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/