Andrew,
Guess I was not too clear, but I figured out that it was a forward to
another server. Is the Postmaster error message from the IMail server or
from one of the other server? I think it is IMail as the email address
matches that used as the OHN. So, IMail does have a domain named
'email.cshore.com' and I expect that is where at least some users are. I
cannot say that I know all the reasons, but it is possible IMail can
'expand' the hostname portion to match its primary OHN and attempt delivery
to that. Since the account does not exist there (and other places/domain
within IMail, it may have tried), it sends the bounce message.
Did you try my suggestion about the HOSTS file? What is in this computers
HOSTS file?
Has the machine been restarted recently? If no, how about trying that (just
to see what happens, with the forward in place and if the HOSTS file change
has no effect, of course)?
Happy Holidays!
Daniel Donnelly
________________________________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew P. Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:13 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Invalid final delivery userid
> >>
> The Forward has the wrong address. The first one could expand to
> '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' (see the Postmasters address!).
> >>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a valid address on another non-mail mail server. Why
> does Imail expand it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have other forwards to
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" that work.
>
> >>
> Remove the first address in the Forward and all should be OK.
> >>
>
> That's what I did a little while ago. However, he swears this have been
> working for months.
>
>
> Andrew P. Kaplan, CNE, MCSE+Internet, MCT, CCNA, CCDA
> CyberShore, Inc. -- Premium Internet Services -- http://www.cshore.com
>
>
> "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
comfort,
> but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
> -Martin Luther King, Jr.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 12:09 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Invalid final delivery userid
> >
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > The Forward has the wrong address. The first one could expand to
> > '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' (see the Postmasters address!). Remove the
> > first address in the Forward and all should be OK.
> >
> > Looks like the host with the IP given for host named mail.cshore.com,
will
> > accept [EMAIL PROTECTED], but not [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > BTW, it is not
> > IMail!! So my answer may not be correct, if you are not using IMail.
> >
> > Whoops, I see the hostname is email! So here is more from a telnet
session
> > to email.cshore.com:
> > 220 X1 NT-ESMTP Server email.cshore.com (IMail 6.00 315642-2)
> > vrfy root
> > 252 Cannot VRFY user
> > mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 250 ok
> > rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 550 not local host cshore.com, not a gateway (you don't have an Alias)
> > rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 550 unknown user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (user does not exist!)
> > rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 250 ok its for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (the 'good' account, but bad
forward!)
> >
> > So my first response is almost right. Mitch exists @wechter.com,
> > but neither
> > mwechter(s) exist on the IMail machine, so that first forward address is
> > just wrong (as far as local to IMail is concerned). If IMail did expand
it
> > to the longer hostname (that used by IMail!), that would not work,
either,
> > as shown above (you don't have an alias, but I now see that is another
> > machine!). If you are expecting IMail to send some email to the mail.
> > machine, then try the longer form of the address, in the forward, i.e.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, I just found that host will not accept th
at
> > longer name, it only likes cshore.com (even though its name is
> > mail.cshore.com). Guess that will not work. So the only other thing I
can
> > think to do for IMail is to add an entry in its HOSTS file, to direct
mail
> > with @cshore.com, to the IP for mail.cshore.com. Of course, there may be
> > some other things you can do to the non-IMail server, to get it to
accept
> > the longer form of addressing and that would then work, too.
> >
> > Whew!!! that was harder (and longer!) that I expected and not quite so
> > simple as first thought.
> >
> > Happy Holidays!
> >
> > Daniel Donnelly
> > ________________________________________________________
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew P. Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "IMail_Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 11:12 AM
> > Subject: [IMail Forum] Invalid final delivery userid
> >
> >
> > > A user got a bounced message when he tried to send mail to
> > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". The message is below. The user address
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] has ".,[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
in
> > the
> > > Forward field. "email.cshore.com" is the official hostname of the
Imail
> > > server. When I send mail to this address its delivered without any
error
> > > message.
> > >
> > > Why is Imail trying to deliver mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
which
> > of
> > > course doesn't exist.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject : Undeliverable Mail
> > > Date : Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:57:00 -0500
> > > From : "Postmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > Invalid final delivery userid: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Original message follows.
> > >
> > > Received: from SMTP32-FWD by wechter.com
> > > (SMTP32) id A00000135; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:57:29 -0500
> > > Received: from Alan [24.151.7.5] by email.cshore.com
> > > (SMTPD32-6.00) id AE0877402BC; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:57:28 -0500
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:56:40 -0500
> > > From: Alan D. Wittstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Test from Alan
> > > To: Mitchell Wechter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Mime-Version: 1.0
> > > Organization: Soft Designs
> > > X-Mailer: GoldMine [5.00.402]
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> > > Message-Id: <200012272057640.SM00134@Alan>
> > >
> > > Andrew P. Kaplan, CNE, MCSE+Internet, MCT, CCNA, CCDA
> > > CyberShore, Inc. -- Premium Internet Services -- http://www.cshore.com
> > >
> > >
> > > "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of
> > comfort,
> > > but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
> > > -Martin Luther King, Jr.
> > >
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