Anurag Ji,

Flora of Karmataka thinks (1) *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* is accepted name
of *Cissus/Vitis lanceolaria* and (2) *T. leucostaphylum* is accepted name
of *Tetrastigma muricatum* (Wight & Arn) Gamble.
KEY and description of the above two species can be found in the same site
- http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4504&cat=1

It is ironical that the fruit size of *T. leucostaphyllum* given in the
above site goes against the book Garg Sir mentioned earlier
<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>.
It is further more ironical that our group recognize the second one above
is a different taxon -
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-muricatum

Certainly what the above book
<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>
says about the fruit (triangula-obcordate) of *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* is
wrong. The fruit of this species (*T. rum.*) will be same as *T.
lanceolarium* but  smaller (check FoC
<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242351675>);
and the plant will be same as *T. lanceolarium*.

All the above confusion, I think, lies in a single Wallich collection -
Wall. cat. 6013. and entries in FBI.

So, forget about all experts, books, sites. Take a tip from this
non-botanist-expert one, i.e. myself!

Your plant is *Tetrastigma leucostaphylum* as per fruit size (more than 1.2
cm?) mentioned in your Flora of Karnataka site.

Thank you

Regards

surajit


On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:48 AM, surajit koley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Anurag Ji,
>
> In FBI the distribution of *Vitis rumicisperma* Laws. is restricted to
> Sikkim Himalaya, Khasia Mts. FBI thinks it is also allied to *V.
> lanceolaria*. FBI says it has leaves usually pedately 5-foliolate, rarelt
> 3-foliolate; branches with corky wart or tubercles; fruit the size of large
> currant; *seed broadly triangular-obcordate*.
>
> The book Garg Sir mentioned earlier
> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>informs
> it is present in the South too, as *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* (Laws.)
> Planch.
>
> Please check probability.
>
> Thank you
>
> Regards
>
> surajit
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, surajit koley <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Garg Sir, in that case it may not be *Vitis *(*Cissus*)*
>> lanceolaria* Roxb,
>> Thank you
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:21 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Surajit ji,
>>> Accepted name & synonyms as given in efi is based on GRIN
>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?36406> (2014) & Flora
>>> of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1
>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>
>>>  By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (2003-
>>> Description & *Keys)*
>>>
>>> On 15 October 2014 21:34, surajit koley <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I agree with you, Mahadeswara Ji, but there is a problem with
>>>> accepted name -
>>>>
>>>>    - I think it is *Vitis lanceolaria* Roxb. of FBI, the accepted name
>>>>    of which, as per TPL, is *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* (Roxb.) Planch
>>>>    <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-34000717>. But at
>>>>    the same time TPL gives a note - *"A cross-taxon basionym link was
>>>>    ignored while processing this record, see Cissus lanceolaria Roxb.."*.
>>>>    I don't know what does it mean.
>>>>    - Our group identifies *Cissus lanceolaria* Roxb. with *Tetrastigma
>>>>    leucostaphylum
>>>>    
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-leucostaphylum>*
>>>>    (Dennst.) Alston ex Mabb.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I suggested the name i found in Flora of British India.
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How about Tetrastigma species ?   Not sure.  Need to compare the
>>>>> characters.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forwarding again for Idassistance please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cayratia
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cayratia>-
>>>>>> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/
>>>>>> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever
>>>>>> available)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming this is a climber, 5 foliolate pedate leaves, glabrous
>>>>>> nature, corky warts o tubercles, short and compact cymes suggest it can 
>>>>>> be *Vitis
>>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, FBI i. 660.
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Regards                                          Surajit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: 4 October 2014 14:24
>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:202254] ANOCT24 Cayratia sp.?
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nandi Hills
>>>>>> 1st October 2014
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