Excellent Surajiy ji. Great in-depth study . Who said you are a non botanist ? You are not only a botanist but a great taxonomist.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:19 AM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Anurag Ji, > > Flora of Karmataka thinks (1) *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* is accepted name > of *Cissus/Vitis lanceolaria* and (2) *T. leucostaphylum* is accepted > name of *Tetrastigma muricatum* (Wight & Arn) Gamble. > KEY and description of the above two species can be found in the same site > - > http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4504&cat=1 > > It is ironical that the fruit size of *T. leucostaphyllum* given in the > above site goes against the book Garg Sir mentioned earlier > <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>. > It is further more ironical that our group recognize the second one above > is a different taxon - > https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-muricatum > > Certainly what the above book > <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> > says about the fruit (triangula-obcordate) of *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* is > wrong. The fruit of this species (*T. rum.*) will be same as *T. > lanceolarium* but smaller (check FoC > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242351675>); > and the plant will be same as *T. lanceolarium*. > > All the above confusion, I think, lies in a single Wallich collection - > Wall. cat. 6013. and entries in FBI. > > So, forget about all experts, books, sites. Take a tip from this > non-botanist-expert one, i.e. myself! > > Your plant is *Tetrastigma leucostaphylum* as per fruit size (more than > 1.2 cm?) mentioned in your Flora of Karnataka site. > > Thank you > > Regards > > surajit > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:48 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Anurag Ji, >> >> In FBI the distribution of *Vitis rumicisperma* Laws. is restricted to >> Sikkim Himalaya, Khasia Mts. FBI thinks it is also allied to *V. >> lanceolaria*. FBI says it has leaves usually pedately 5-foliolate, >> rarelt 3-foliolate; branches with corky wart or tubercles; fruit the size >> of large currant; *seed broadly triangular-obcordate*. >> >> The book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>informs >> it is present in the South too, as *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* (Laws.) >> Planch. >> >> Please check probability. >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards >> >> surajit >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Garg Sir, in that case it may not be *Vitis *(*Cissus*)* >>> lanceolaria* Roxb, >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:21 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>> Accepted name & synonyms as given in efi is based on GRIN >>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?36406> (2014) & Flora >>>> of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1 >>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>> By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (2003- >>>> Description & *Keys)* >>>> >>>> On 15 October 2014 21:34, surajit koley <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, I agree with you, Mahadeswara Ji, but there is a problem with >>>>> accepted name - >>>>> >>>>> - I think it is *Vitis lanceolaria* Roxb. of FBI, the accepted >>>>> name of which, as per TPL, is *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* (Roxb.) >>>>> Planch <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-34000717>. >>>>> But at the same time TPL gives a note - *"A cross-taxon basionym >>>>> link was ignored while processing this record, see Cissus lanceolaria >>>>> Roxb.."*. I don't know what does it mean. >>>>> - Our group identifies *Cissus lanceolaria* Roxb. with *Tetrastigma >>>>> leucostaphylum >>>>> >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-leucostaphylum>* >>>>> (Dennst.) Alston ex Mabb. >>>>> >>>>> That's why I suggested the name i found in Flora of British India. >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How about Tetrastigma species ? Not sure. Need to compare the >>>>>> characters. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Idassistance please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cayratia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cayratia>- >>>>>>> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ >>>>>>> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>>> available) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Assuming this is a climber, 5 foliolate pedate leaves, glabrous >>>>>>> nature, corky warts o tubercles, short and compact cymes suggest it can >>>>>>> be *Vitis >>>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, FBI i. 660. >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards Surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 4 October 2014 14:24 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:202254] ANOCT24 Cayratia sp.? >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nandi Hills >>>>>>> 1st October 2014 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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