[?] Surajit ji for the efforts you take to dissect the available resources. Thank you very much. Regards. Dinesh
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:38 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Thank you very much Sir. Now, everything depends on mature fruit size and > backed by seed picture. > > Regards > > surajit > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:19 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Excellent Surajiy ji. Great in-depth study . Who said you are a non >> botanist ? You are not only a botanist but a great taxonomist. >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:19 AM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Anurag Ji, >>> >>> Flora of Karmataka thinks (1) *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* is accepted >>> name of *Cissus/Vitis lanceolaria* and (2) *T. leucostaphylum* is >>> accepted name of *Tetrastigma muricatum* (Wight & Arn) Gamble. >>> KEY and description of the above two species can be found in the same >>> site - >>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4504&cat=1 >>> >>> It is ironical that the fruit size of *T. leucostaphyllum* given in the >>> above site goes against the book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>. >>> It is further more ironical that our group recognize the second one above >>> is a different taxon - >>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-muricatum >>> >>> Certainly what the above book >>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>> says about the fruit (triangula-obcordate) of *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* is >>> wrong. The fruit of this species (*T. rum.*) will be same as *T. >>> lanceolarium* but smaller (check FoC >>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242351675>); >>> and the plant will be same as *T. lanceolarium*. >>> >>> All the above confusion, I think, lies in a single Wallich collection - >>> Wall. cat. 6013. and entries in FBI. >>> >>> So, forget about all experts, books, sites. Take a tip from this >>> non-botanist-expert one, i.e. myself! >>> >>> Your plant is *Tetrastigma leucostaphylum* as per fruit size (more than >>> 1.2 cm?) mentioned in your Flora of Karnataka site. >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:48 AM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Anurag Ji, >>>> >>>> In FBI the distribution of *Vitis rumicisperma* Laws. is restricted to >>>> Sikkim Himalaya, Khasia Mts. FBI thinks it is also allied to *V. >>>> lanceolaria*. FBI says it has leaves usually pedately 5-foliolate, >>>> rarelt 3-foliolate; branches with corky wart or tubercles; fruit the size >>>> of large currant; *seed broadly triangular-obcordate*. >>>> >>>> The book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>informs >>>> it is present in the South too, as *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* (Laws.) >>>> Planch. >>>> >>>> Please check probability. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Garg Sir, in that case it may not be *Vitis *(*Cissus*)* >>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:21 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>>>> Accepted name & synonyms as given in efi is based on GRIN >>>>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?36406> (2014) & Flora >>>>>> of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1 >>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>>>> By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (2003- >>>>>> Description & *Keys)* >>>>>> >>>>>> On 15 October 2014 21:34, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I agree with you, Mahadeswara Ji, but there is a problem with >>>>>>> accepted name - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - I think it is *Vitis lanceolaria* Roxb. of FBI, the accepted >>>>>>> name of which, as per TPL, is *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* (Roxb.) >>>>>>> Planch <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-34000717>. >>>>>>> But at the same time TPL gives a note - *"A cross-taxon basionym >>>>>>> link was ignored while processing this record, see Cissus lanceolaria >>>>>>> Roxb.."*. I don't know what does it mean. >>>>>>> - Our group identifies *Cissus lanceolaria* Roxb. with *Tetrastigma >>>>>>> leucostaphylum >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-leucostaphylum>* >>>>>>> (Dennst.) Alston ex Mabb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's why I suggested the name i found in Flora of British India. >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How about Tetrastigma species ? Not sure. Need to compare the >>>>>>>> characters. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Idassistance please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cayratia >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cayratia>- >>>>>>>>> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>>>> papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., >>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>> ever available) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Assuming this is a climber, 5 foliolate pedate leaves, glabrous >>>>>>>>> nature, corky warts o tubercles, short and compact cymes suggest it >>>>>>>>> can be *Vitis >>>>>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, FBI i. 660. >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> Regards Surajit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: 4 October 2014 14:24 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:202254] ANOCT24 Cayratia sp.? >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nandi Hills >>>>>>>>> 1st October 2014 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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