I do take a *Tetrastigma leucostaphylum *then sir. Thank you very much. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:06 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote:
> Thank you very much Dinesh Ji. I really spent much time on recent vitaceae > uploads. Thank you for recognizing. > > Regards > > surajit > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> [?] Surajit ji for the efforts you take to dissect the available >> resources. >> Thank you very much. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:38 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you very much Sir. Now, everything depends on mature fruit size >>> and backed by seed picture. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:19 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Excellent Surajiy ji. Great in-depth study . Who said you are a >>>> non botanist ? You are not only a botanist but a great taxonomist. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:19 AM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anurag Ji, >>>>> >>>>> Flora of Karmataka thinks (1) *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* is accepted >>>>> name of *Cissus/Vitis lanceolaria* and (2) *T. leucostaphylum* is >>>>> accepted name of *Tetrastigma muricatum* (Wight & Arn) Gamble. >>>>> KEY and description of the above two species can be found in the same >>>>> site - >>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4504&cat=1 >>>>> >>>>> It is ironical that the fruit size of *T. leucostaphyllum* given in >>>>> the above site goes against the book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>. >>>>> It is further more ironical that our group recognize the second one above >>>>> is a different taxon - >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-muricatum >>>>> >>>>> Certainly what the above book >>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>>> says about the fruit (triangula-obcordate) of *Tetrastigma >>>>> rumicisperma* is wrong. The fruit of this species (*T. rum.*) will be >>>>> same as *T. lanceolarium* but smaller (check FoC >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242351675>); >>>>> and the plant will be same as *T. lanceolarium*. >>>>> >>>>> All the above confusion, I think, lies in a single Wallich collection >>>>> - Wall. cat. 6013. and entries in FBI. >>>>> >>>>> So, forget about all experts, books, sites. Take a tip from this >>>>> non-botanist-expert one, i.e. myself! >>>>> >>>>> Your plant is *Tetrastigma leucostaphylum* as per fruit size (more >>>>> than 1.2 cm?) mentioned in your Flora of Karnataka site. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:48 AM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Anurag Ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> In FBI the distribution of *Vitis rumicisperma* Laws. is restricted >>>>>> to Sikkim Himalaya, Khasia Mts. FBI thinks it is also allied to *V. >>>>>> lanceolaria*. FBI says it has leaves usually pedately 5-foliolate, >>>>>> rarelt 3-foliolate; branches with corky wart or tubercles; fruit the size >>>>>> of large currant; *seed broadly triangular-obcordate*. >>>>>> >>>>>> The book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>informs >>>>>> it is present in the South too, as *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* (Laws.) >>>>>> Planch. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please check probability. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Garg Sir, in that case it may not be *Vitis *(*Cissus*)* >>>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:21 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>>>>>> Accepted name & synonyms as given in efi is based on GRIN >>>>>>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?36406> (2014) >>>>>>>> & Flora of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1 >>>>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>>>>>> By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (2003- >>>>>>>> Description & *Keys)* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 15 October 2014 21:34, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, I agree with you, Mahadeswara Ji, but there is a problem with >>>>>>>>> accepted name - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - I think it is *Vitis lanceolaria* Roxb. of FBI, the accepted >>>>>>>>> name of which, as per TPL, is *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* (Roxb.) >>>>>>>>> Planch <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-34000717>. >>>>>>>>> But at the same time TPL gives a note - *"A cross-taxon >>>>>>>>> basionym link was ignored while processing this record, see Cissus >>>>>>>>> lanceolaria Roxb.."*. I don't know what does it mean. >>>>>>>>> - Our group identifies *Cissus lanceolaria* Roxb. with *Tetrastigma >>>>>>>>> leucostaphylum >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-leucostaphylum>* >>>>>>>>> (Dennst.) Alston ex Mabb. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's why I suggested the name i found in Flora of British India. >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How about Tetrastigma species ? Not sure. Need to compare the >>>>>>>>>> characters. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Idassistance please. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cayratia >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cayratia>- >>>>>>>>>>> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>>>>>> papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., >>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>> ever available) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Assuming this is a climber, 5 foliolate pedate leaves, glabrous >>>>>>>>>>> nature, corky warts o tubercles, short and compact cymes suggest it >>>>>>>>>>> can be *Vitis >>>>>>>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, FBI i. 660. >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>> Regards Surajit >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: 4 October 2014 14:24 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:202254] ANOCT24 Cayratia sp.? >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nandi Hills >>>>>>>>>>> 1st October 2014 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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