Thank you very much Dinesh Ji. I really spent much time on recent vitaceae uploads. Thank you for recognizing.
Regards surajit On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: > [?] Surajit ji for the efforts you take to dissect the available resources. > Thank you very much. > Regards. > Dinesh > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:38 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you very much Sir. Now, everything depends on mature fruit size and >> backed by seed picture. >> >> Regards >> >> surajit >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:19 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Excellent Surajiy ji. Great in-depth study . Who said you are a non >>> botanist ? You are not only a botanist but a great taxonomist. >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:19 AM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Anurag Ji, >>>> >>>> Flora of Karmataka thinks (1) *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* is accepted >>>> name of *Cissus/Vitis lanceolaria* and (2) *T. leucostaphylum* is >>>> accepted name of *Tetrastigma muricatum* (Wight & Arn) Gamble. >>>> KEY and description of the above two species can be found in the same >>>> site - >>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4504&cat=1 >>>> >>>> It is ironical that the fruit size of *T. leucostaphyllum* given in >>>> the above site goes against the book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>. >>>> It is further more ironical that our group recognize the second one above >>>> is a different taxon - >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-muricatum >>>> >>>> Certainly what the above book >>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>> says about the fruit (triangula-obcordate) of *Tetrastigma >>>> rumicisperma* is wrong. The fruit of this species (*T. rum.*) will be >>>> same as *T. lanceolarium* but smaller (check FoC >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242351675>); >>>> and the plant will be same as *T. lanceolarium*. >>>> >>>> All the above confusion, I think, lies in a single Wallich collection - >>>> Wall. cat. 6013. and entries in FBI. >>>> >>>> So, forget about all experts, books, sites. Take a tip from this >>>> non-botanist-expert one, i.e. myself! >>>> >>>> Your plant is *Tetrastigma leucostaphylum* as per fruit size (more >>>> than 1.2 cm?) mentioned in your Flora of Karnataka site. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:48 AM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anurag Ji, >>>>> >>>>> In FBI the distribution of *Vitis rumicisperma* Laws. is restricted >>>>> to Sikkim Himalaya, Khasia Mts. FBI thinks it is also allied to *V. >>>>> lanceolaria*. FBI says it has leaves usually pedately 5-foliolate, >>>>> rarelt 3-foliolate; branches with corky wart or tubercles; fruit the size >>>>> of large currant; *seed broadly triangular-obcordate*. >>>>> >>>>> The book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>informs >>>>> it is present in the South too, as *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* (Laws.) >>>>> Planch. >>>>> >>>>> Please check probability. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Garg Sir, in that case it may not be *Vitis *(*Cissus*)* >>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:21 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>>>>> Accepted name & synonyms as given in efi is based on GRIN >>>>>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?36406> (2014) & >>>>>>> Flora >>>>>>> of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1 >>>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>>>>> By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (2003- >>>>>>> Description & *Keys)* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 15 October 2014 21:34, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, I agree with you, Mahadeswara Ji, but there is a problem with >>>>>>>> accepted name - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - I think it is *Vitis lanceolaria* Roxb. of FBI, the accepted >>>>>>>> name of which, as per TPL, is *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* (Roxb.) >>>>>>>> Planch <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-34000717>. >>>>>>>> But at the same time TPL gives a note - *"A cross-taxon >>>>>>>> basionym link was ignored while processing this record, see Cissus >>>>>>>> lanceolaria Roxb.."*. I don't know what does it mean. >>>>>>>> - Our group identifies *Cissus lanceolaria* Roxb. with *Tetrastigma >>>>>>>> leucostaphylum >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-leucostaphylum>* >>>>>>>> (Dennst.) Alston ex Mabb. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's why I suggested the name i found in Flora of British India. >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How about Tetrastigma species ? Not sure. Need to compare the >>>>>>>>> characters. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Idassistance please. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cayratia >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cayratia>- >>>>>>>>>> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>>>>> papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> ever available) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Assuming this is a climber, 5 foliolate pedate leaves, glabrous >>>>>>>>>> nature, corky warts o tubercles, short and compact cymes suggest it >>>>>>>>>> can be *Vitis >>>>>>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, FBI i. 660. >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> Regards Surajit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Date: 4 October 2014 14:24 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:202254] ANOCT24 Cayratia sp.? >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nandi Hills >>>>>>>>>> 1st October 2014 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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