Anurag Ji, Please don't take my words. You do express your view freely, in the process I would learn something. I think there is less probability of this plant to be *T. sulcata* (Laws.) Gamble, because leaves are crenate in that species, as per both of the resources we have seen earlier. This species has characters of *Vitris lanceolaria* Roxb. Since *lanceolaria* si now divided in to two taxa, and I assume fruits are likely to grow a little more I think it has possibility to be *T. leucostaphylum*.
Thank you Regards surajit On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> wrote: > I do take a *Tetrastigma leucostaphylum *then sir. Thank you very much. > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:06 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you very much Dinesh Ji. I really spent much time on recent >> vitaceae uploads. Thank you for recognizing. >> >> Regards >> >> surajit >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> [?] Surajit ji for the efforts you take to dissect the available >>> resources. >>> Thank you very much. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:38 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you very much Sir. Now, everything depends on mature fruit size >>>> and backed by seed picture. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:19 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Excellent Surajiy ji. Great in-depth study . Who said you are a >>>>> non botanist ? You are not only a botanist but a great taxonomist. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:19 AM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Anurag Ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> Flora of Karmataka thinks (1) *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* is accepted >>>>>> name of *Cissus/Vitis lanceolaria* and (2) *T. leucostaphylum* is >>>>>> accepted name of *Tetrastigma muricatum* (Wight & Arn) Gamble. >>>>>> KEY and description of the above two species can be found in the same >>>>>> site - >>>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4504&cat=1 >>>>>> >>>>>> It is ironical that the fruit size of *T. leucostaphyllum* given in >>>>>> the above site goes against the book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>. >>>>>> It is further more ironical that our group recognize the second one above >>>>>> is a different taxon - >>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-muricatum >>>>>> >>>>>> Certainly what the above book >>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>>>> says about the fruit (triangula-obcordate) of *Tetrastigma >>>>>> rumicisperma* is wrong. The fruit of this species (*T. rum.*) will >>>>>> be same as *T. lanceolarium* but smaller (check FoC >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242351675>); >>>>>> and the plant will be same as *T. lanceolarium*. >>>>>> >>>>>> All the above confusion, I think, lies in a single Wallich collection >>>>>> - Wall. cat. 6013. and entries in FBI. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, forget about all experts, books, sites. Take a tip from this >>>>>> non-botanist-expert one, i.e. myself! >>>>>> >>>>>> Your plant is *Tetrastigma leucostaphylum* as per fruit size (more >>>>>> than 1.2 cm?) mentioned in your Flora of Karnataka site. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:48 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Anurag Ji, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In FBI the distribution of *Vitis rumicisperma* Laws. is restricted >>>>>>> to Sikkim Himalaya, Khasia Mts. FBI thinks it is also allied to *V. >>>>>>> lanceolaria*. FBI says it has leaves usually pedately 5-foliolate, >>>>>>> rarelt 3-foliolate; branches with corky wart or tubercles; fruit the >>>>>>> size >>>>>>> of large currant; *seed broadly triangular-obcordate*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >>>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>informs >>>>>>> it is present in the South too, as *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* (Laws.) >>>>>>> Planch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please check probability. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Garg Sir, in that case it may not be *Vitis *(*Cissus*)* >>>>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:21 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>>>>>>> Accepted name & synonyms as given in efi is based on GRIN >>>>>>>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?36406> (2014) >>>>>>>>> & Flora of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume >>>>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>>>>>>> By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (2003- >>>>>>>>> Description & *Keys)* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15 October 2014 21:34, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, I agree with you, Mahadeswara Ji, but there is a problem >>>>>>>>>> with accepted name - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - I think it is *Vitis lanceolaria* Roxb. of FBI, the >>>>>>>>>> accepted name of which, as per TPL, is *Tetrastigma >>>>>>>>>> lanceolarium* (Roxb.) Planch >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-34000717>. But >>>>>>>>>> at the same time TPL gives a note - *"A cross-taxon basionym >>>>>>>>>> link was ignored while processing this record, see Cissus >>>>>>>>>> lanceolaria >>>>>>>>>> Roxb.."*. I don't know what does it mean. >>>>>>>>>> - Our group identifies *Cissus lanceolaria* Roxb. with >>>>>>>>>> *Tetrastigma >>>>>>>>>> leucostaphylum >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-leucostaphylum>* >>>>>>>>>> (Dennst.) Alston ex Mabb. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That's why I suggested the name i found in Flora of British India. >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> How about Tetrastigma species ? Not sure. Need to compare the >>>>>>>>>>> characters. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Idassistance please. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cayratia >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cayratia>- >>>>>>>>>>>> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>>>>>>> papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., >>>>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>>>> ever available) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming this is a climber, 5 foliolate pedate leaves, glabrous >>>>>>>>>>>> nature, corky warts o tubercles, short and compact cymes suggest >>>>>>>>>>>> it can be *Vitis >>>>>>>>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, FBI i. 660. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards Surajit >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 4 October 2014 14:24 >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:202254] ANOCT24 Cayratia sp.? >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nandi Hills >>>>>>>>>>>> 1st October 2014 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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