Thank you very much Sir. Now, everything depends on mature fruit size and backed by seed picture.
Regards surajit On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:19 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> wrote: > Excellent Surajiy ji. Great in-depth study . Who said you are a non > botanist ? You are not only a botanist but a great taxonomist. > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:19 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Anurag Ji, >> >> Flora of Karmataka thinks (1) *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* is accepted >> name of *Cissus/Vitis lanceolaria* and (2) *T. leucostaphylum* is >> accepted name of *Tetrastigma muricatum* (Wight & Arn) Gamble. >> KEY and description of the above two species can be found in the same >> site - >> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4504&cat=1 >> >> It is ironical that the fruit size of *T. leucostaphyllum* given in the >> above site goes against the book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>. >> It is further more ironical that our group recognize the second one above >> is a different taxon - >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-muricatum >> >> Certainly what the above book >> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >> says about the fruit (triangula-obcordate) of *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* is >> wrong. The fruit of this species (*T. rum.*) will be same as *T. >> lanceolarium* but smaller (check FoC >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242351675>); >> and the plant will be same as *T. lanceolarium*. >> >> All the above confusion, I think, lies in a single Wallich collection - >> Wall. cat. 6013. and entries in FBI. >> >> So, forget about all experts, books, sites. Take a tip from this >> non-botanist-expert one, i.e. myself! >> >> Your plant is *Tetrastigma leucostaphylum* as per fruit size (more than >> 1.2 cm?) mentioned in your Flora of Karnataka site. >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards >> >> surajit >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:48 AM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Anurag Ji, >>> >>> In FBI the distribution of *Vitis rumicisperma* Laws. is restricted to >>> Sikkim Himalaya, Khasia Mts. FBI thinks it is also allied to *V. >>> lanceolaria*. FBI says it has leaves usually pedately 5-foliolate, >>> rarelt 3-foliolate; branches with corky wart or tubercles; fruit the size >>> of large currant; *seed broadly triangular-obcordate*. >>> >>> The book Garg Sir mentioned earlier >>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false>informs >>> it is present in the South too, as *Tetrastigma rumicisperma* (Laws.) >>> Planch. >>> >>> Please check probability. >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> surajit >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Garg Sir, in that case it may not be *Vitis *(*Cissus*)* >>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:21 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji, >>>>> Accepted name & synonyms as given in efi is based on GRIN >>>>> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?36406> (2014) & Flora >>>>> of Eastern Ghats: Hill Ranges of South East India, Volume 1 >>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books?id=pSXidQZupHYC&pg=PA294&dq=Tetrastigma+%2B+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Tg4UsK2FoXirAfjo4GoCw&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Tetrastigma%20%2B%20india&f=false> >>>>> By T. Pullaiah, D. Muralidhara Rao, K. Sri Ramamurthy (2003- >>>>> Description & *Keys)* >>>>> >>>>> On 15 October 2014 21:34, surajit koley <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I agree with you, Mahadeswara Ji, but there is a problem with >>>>>> accepted name - >>>>>> >>>>>> - I think it is *Vitis lanceolaria* Roxb. of FBI, the accepted >>>>>> name of which, as per TPL, is *Tetrastigma lanceolarium* (Roxb.) >>>>>> Planch <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-34000717>. >>>>>> But at the same time TPL gives a note - *"A cross-taxon basionym >>>>>> link was ignored while processing this record, see Cissus lanceolaria >>>>>> Roxb.."*. I don't know what does it mean. >>>>>> - Our group identifies *Cissus lanceolaria* Roxb. with *Tetrastigma >>>>>> leucostaphylum >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/tetrastigma/tetrastigma-leucostaphylum>* >>>>>> (Dennst.) Alston ex Mabb. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's why I suggested the name i found in Flora of British India. >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, M Swamy <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How about Tetrastigma species ? Not sure. Need to compare the >>>>>>> characters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:20 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Idassistance please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cayratia >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/vitaceae/cayratia>- >>>>>>>> species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ >>>>>>>> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Assuming this is a climber, 5 foliolate pedate leaves, glabrous >>>>>>>> nature, corky warts o tubercles, short and compact cymes suggest it >>>>>>>> can be *Vitis >>>>>>>> lanceolaria* Roxb, FBI i. 660. >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards Surajit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: 4 October 2014 14:24 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:202254] ANOCT24 Cayratia sp.? >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nandi Hills >>>>>>>> 1st October 2014 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>> Plants >>>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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