Well, Anurag Ji, I missed the glandular cladode of *H. verticillaris*. And also fruit size was unknown to me. Attached here the FBI entries. I stressed on calyx character which was not visible in attached pictures, couldn't make out length of cladode in various threads.
Thank you very much for those differentiating characters. Regards surajit On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> wrote: > Based on Gamble and Flora of Hassan District (attached), Biodiversity in > India > <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=M0ucOe89GZMC&pg=PA592&lpg=PA592&dq=HAPLANTHUS+TENTACULATUS&source=bl&ots=cVvc3YFcOk&sig=307E8rMNGbFkyktAJ3S34098hRc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BnktVefgJ5WmuQSci4DACA&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=HAPLANTHUS%20TENTACULATUS&f=false> > and JCB > <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus/page_533.pdf.jpg> > : > > *CHARACTER* > > *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees > > *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar > > *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight > > *Haplanthodes nilgherrensis* (Wight) R.B.Majumdar > > (this column can include the varieties coming under *Haplanthodes > tentaculatus- Haplanthus tentaculatus *group) > > *INFLORESCENCE* > > ? > > TERMINAL > > *CLADODE* > > .75-1.25 INCH > > ENDING IN 2 SPINOUS TEETH > > VILLOUS AND GLANDULAR > > .5 INCH > > ENDING IN 2 OR MORE TEETH > > VILLOUS (NOT GLANDULAR) > > *CAPSULE* > > .4 INCH > > GLABROUS > > .2 INCH > > PUBESCENT > > *SEEDS* > > 6-16 > > ? > > In the above cases, whether we: > > 1) consider the varieties under *Haplanthodes tentaculatus* (L.) Nees or, > 2) think of them as coming under a Haplanthus tentaculatus group; > > -the clear difference between *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) > R.B.Majumdar and the other species (singular/plural) is- *cladodes > densely pubescent* *AND* *glandular hairy* in *Haplanthodes verticillatus* > (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar while the other is *ONLY *densely pubescent. > > If this is agreeable, then may be we finally have a definite idea of what > is and isn't *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar based on > the cladode being glandular hairy? > > Please correct me if I have gone wrong anywhere. > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes for both of your questions, I think Anurag Ji. >> >> q1 = ref. >> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus/page_533.pdf.jpg >> q2 = I used the term "*H. tentaculatus* group", for the type species as >> well as var. *nilgherrensis* and var. *plumosa*. >> >> *Haplanthodes* is synonymous with *Haplanthus* and also with *Berekampia* in >> our cases. >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> and also, as a continuation of 2) =*Haplanthus tentaculatus* group? >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Sir, >>>> >>>> I believe I may have a resolving idea to put forth but first I would >>>> like to know if: >>>> >>>> 1) *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees = *Haplanthodes verticillatus* >>>> (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>>> 2) *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight = *Haplanthodes nilgherrensis* >>>> (Wight) R.B.Majumdar? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:31 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I asked if any member can access the paper >>>>> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3417/2013046. What I come to know is >>>>> that *Haplanthodes tentaculatus* (L.) Nees is further divided in to >>>>> var. *nilgherryensis >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes/haplanthodes-nilgherrensis>* >>>>> and >>>>> var. plumosa >>>>> <http://plants.jstor.org/stable/history/10.5555/al.ap.specimen.k000885684>, >>>>> besides type species. >>>>> >>>>> First, I do not have literature, be it century old, on South Indian >>>>> flora. I have never seen one physical species, never before even in >>>>> images. The >>>>> first time I saw/noticed it in Anurag Ji's thread >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/D5V4vxlW5nc/5q0B7fF9oQ0J> >>>>> . >>>>> Second, it appears to me that various uploads of *Haplanthodes*, in >>>>> eFI, are very confusing. >>>>> Third, internet doesn't feature any photograph of related species >>>>> other than those of Dinesh Ji, Prashant Ji and one or two of others. >>>>> Fourth, I do not even know how to differentiate *H. verticillatus* from >>>>> *H. tentaculatus*. >>>>> >>>>> Dinesh Ji threw some light - >>>>> >>>>> 1. >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/NbKZ2cRILsc/znbfFPnQ7iAJ >>>>> 2. >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/C6E9D20qujk/tAcJAwm8ZEEJ >>>>> 3. >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/d6pQ0ry1jP0/wfhnGOsjAWEJ >>>>> >>>>> FBI recorded, corolla in *H. verticillatus* (*verticillaris*) is pale >>>>> lilac; against dark lilac in >>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=151&cat=1 >>>>> and >>>>> "brilliant blue" in Dinesh Ji's KEY in link1 above. >>>>> >>>>> Prashant Ji has both white & blue colour *H. nilgherryensis*. >>>>> >>>>> So, it is quite impossible for me to decipher the id of this species. >>>>> More so, because except the flowering spikes no detail on sepals, sizes of >>>>> corolla and calyx etc are available. >>>>> >>>>> If this belongs to *H. tantaculatus* group it is unlikely to be var. >>>>> *plumosa*, because of the following herbarium - >>>>> Herb. of *Ruellia tentaculata* - http://linnean-online.org/6882/ >>>>> possibly type species - >>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885683 >>>>> var. *nilgherrensis* - >>>>> >>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885689 >>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885688 >>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885687 >>>>> >>>>> var. *plumosa* - >>>>> >>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885684 >>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885685 >>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885686 >>>>> >>>>> I think var. *plumosa* doesn't have dense spike. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:43 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does anybody have access to >>>>>> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3417/2013046? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:55 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>> efi page on Haplanthodes plumosa >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes/haplanthodes-plumosa> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Haplanthodes >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes> >>>>>>> species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>> papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>>> available) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: Prashant Awale <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 23 March 2015 at 14:03 >>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:218868] Acanthaceae Fortnight ::Haplanthodes >>>>>>> sp? :: Ganapatipule:: PKA-MAR29/29: : >>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>> Came across this Haplanthodes sp. at Jaigad fort near Ganapatipule. >>>>>>> Could this be Haplanthodes plumosa?. Kindly validate the ID. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Botanical name:* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Haplanthodes sp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Family:* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Acanthaceae >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Date/Time-* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 29-03-2010 /11:40 AM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jaigad Fort near Ganapatipule- Ratnagiri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wild >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Herb >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Height/Length- * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30 to 50 cm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Opposite, 3 to 5 cm, Some leaves were acuminate and some were with >>>>>>> somewhat rounded apex , hairy, leaf base extending down to petiole, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Inflorescence Type/ Size- * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Photograph enclosed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Flowers sessile, corolla approx. 8 to 12mm, purple (Photograph >>>>>>> enclosed) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not known >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Prashant >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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