Anurag Ji, I copy here the KEY, based on various lit, you have provided -
*CHARACTER* *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight *Haplanthodes nilgherrensis* (Wight) R.B.Majumdar (this column can include the varieties coming under*Haplanthodes tentaculatus- Haplanthus tentaculatus*group) *INFLORESCENCE* ? TERMINAL *CLADODE* .75-1.25 INCH ENDING IN 2 SPINOUS TEETH VILLOUS AND GLANDULAR .5 INCH ENDING IN 2 OR MORE TEETH VILLOUS (NOT GLANDULAR) *CAPSULE* .4 INCH GLABROUS .2 INCH PUBESCENT *SEEDS* 6-16 ? Please check the thread https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/C6E9D20qujk/x1u7YD85F60J. To me cladodes seem to be gladular, yet number of teeth is two in some & three in others. What do you think? Regards On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:59 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Anurag Ji, > > I do not know. Since we do not have other source we will have to depend on > FBI. I copy a few words - > > Type species : cladodes in fruits glabrous or pubescent, not ciliate; > calyx pubescent, scarcely ciliate; corolla less than 1/2 inch, white (blue, > lilac - Pullaiah) > var. *Plumosa* : calyx densely hispid-hairy subplumose > var. *nilgherrensis* (*neolgherryensis*) : you have lit. > > Your species had capsule slightly curved (check KEW herb K000885689), > while after checking *plumosa* herb. at KEW site it appears to me > *plumosa* capsules are a bit shorter and straight. > > I think if these details can not be ascertain we need to go to var. > *plumosa*, but leave it at *H. tentaculatus* only. This does not apply to > *neilgherryensis* > > Thank you > Regards > surajit > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thank you sir. >> I still do not know what to make of the difference between the var. under >> *Haplanthodes >> tentaculata*. >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:16 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, here is the FBI. >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:14 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, Anurag Ji, I missed the glandular cladode of *H. verticillaris*. >>>> And also fruit size was unknown to me. Attached here the FBI entries. I >>>> stressed on calyx character which was not visible in attached pictures, >>>> couldn't make out length of cladode in various threads. >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for those differentiating characters. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Based on Gamble and Flora of Hassan District (attached), Biodiversity >>>>> in India >>>>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=M0ucOe89GZMC&pg=PA592&lpg=PA592&dq=HAPLANTHUS+TENTACULATUS&source=bl&ots=cVvc3YFcOk&sig=307E8rMNGbFkyktAJ3S34098hRc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BnktVefgJ5WmuQSci4DACA&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=HAPLANTHUS%20TENTACULATUS&f=false> >>>>> and JCB >>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus/page_533.pdf.jpg> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>> *CHARACTER* >>>>> >>>>> *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees >>>>> >>>>> *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>>>> >>>>> *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight >>>>> >>>>> *Haplanthodes nilgherrensis* (Wight) R.B.Majumdar >>>>> >>>>> (this column can include the varieties coming under *Haplanthodes >>>>> tentaculatus- Haplanthus tentaculatus *group) >>>>> >>>>> *INFLORESCENCE* >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> TERMINAL >>>>> >>>>> *CLADODE* >>>>> >>>>> .75-1.25 INCH >>>>> >>>>> ENDING IN 2 SPINOUS TEETH >>>>> >>>>> VILLOUS AND GLANDULAR >>>>> >>>>> .5 INCH >>>>> >>>>> ENDING IN 2 OR MORE TEETH >>>>> >>>>> VILLOUS (NOT GLANDULAR) >>>>> >>>>> *CAPSULE* >>>>> >>>>> .4 INCH >>>>> >>>>> GLABROUS >>>>> >>>>> .2 INCH >>>>> >>>>> PUBESCENT >>>>> >>>>> *SEEDS* >>>>> >>>>> 6-16 >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> In the above cases, whether we: >>>>> >>>>> 1) consider the varieties under *Haplanthodes tentaculatus* (L.) Nees >>>>> or, >>>>> 2) think of them as coming under a Haplanthus tentaculatus group; >>>>> >>>>> -the clear difference between *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) >>>>> R.B.Majumdar and the other species (singular/plural) is- *cladodes >>>>> densely pubescent* *AND* *glandular hairy* in *Haplanthodes >>>>> verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar while the other is *ONLY *densely >>>>> pubescent. >>>>> >>>>> If this is agreeable, then may be we finally have a definite idea of >>>>> what is and isn't *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>>>> based on the cladode being glandular hairy? >>>>> >>>>> Please correct me if I have gone wrong anywhere. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes for both of your questions, I think Anurag Ji. >>>>>> >>>>>> q1 = ref. >>>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus/page_533.pdf.jpg >>>>>> q2 = I used the term "*H. tentaculatus* group", for the type species >>>>>> as well as var. *nilgherrensis* and var. *plumosa*. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Haplanthodes* is synonymous with *Haplanthus* and also with >>>>>> *Berekampia* in our cases. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> and also, as a continuation of 2) =*Haplanthus tentaculatus* group? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe I may have a resolving idea to put forth but first I >>>>>>>> would like to know if: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees = *Haplanthodes verticillatus* >>>>>>>> (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>>>>>>> 2) *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight = *Haplanthodes >>>>>>>> nilgherrensis* (Wight) R.B.Majumdar? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:31 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I asked if any member can access the paper >>>>>>>>> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3417/2013046. What I come to >>>>>>>>> know is that *Haplanthodes tentaculatus* (L.) Nees is further >>>>>>>>> divided in to var. *nilgherryensis >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes/haplanthodes-nilgherrensis>* >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> var. plumosa >>>>>>>>> <http://plants.jstor.org/stable/history/10.5555/al.ap.specimen.k000885684>, >>>>>>>>> besides type species. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First, I do not have literature, be it century old, on South >>>>>>>>> Indian flora. I have never seen one physical species, never before >>>>>>>>> even in >>>>>>>>> images. The first time I saw/noticed it in Anurag Ji's thread >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/D5V4vxlW5nc/5q0B7fF9oQ0J> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> Second, it appears to me that various uploads of *Haplanthodes*, >>>>>>>>> in eFI, are very confusing. >>>>>>>>> Third, internet doesn't feature any photograph of related species >>>>>>>>> other than those of Dinesh Ji, Prashant Ji and one or two of others. >>>>>>>>> Fourth, I do not even know how to differentiate *H. verticillatus* >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> *H. tentaculatus*. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dinesh Ji threw some light - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/NbKZ2cRILsc/znbfFPnQ7iAJ >>>>>>>>> 2. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/C6E9D20qujk/tAcJAwm8ZEEJ >>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/d6pQ0ry1jP0/wfhnGOsjAWEJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FBI recorded, corolla in *H. verticillatus* (*verticillaris*) is >>>>>>>>> pale lilac; against dark lilac in >>>>>>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=151&cat=1 >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> "brilliant blue" in Dinesh Ji's KEY in link1 above. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Prashant Ji has both white & blue colour *H. nilgherryensis*. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, it is quite impossible for me to decipher the id of this >>>>>>>>> species. More so, because except the flowering spikes no detail on >>>>>>>>> sepals, >>>>>>>>> sizes of corolla and calyx etc are available. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If this belongs to *H. tantaculatus* group it is unlikely to be >>>>>>>>> var. *plumosa*, because of the following herbarium - >>>>>>>>> Herb. of *Ruellia tentaculata* - http://linnean-online.org/6882/ >>>>>>>>> possibly type species - >>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885683 >>>>>>>>> var. *nilgherrensis* - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885689 >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885688 >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885687 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> var. *plumosa* - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885684 >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885685 >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885686 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think var. *plumosa* doesn't have dense spike. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:43 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does anybody have access to >>>>>>>>>> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3417/2013046? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:55 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>>> efi page on Haplanthodes plumosa >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes/haplanthodes-plumosa> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes> >>>>>>>>>>> species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>>>>>> papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Prashant Awale <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: 23 March 2015 at 14:03 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:218868] Acanthaceae Fortnight >>>>>>>>>>> ::Haplanthodes sp? :: Ganapatipule:: PKA-MAR29/29: : >>>>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>>> Came across this Haplanthodes sp. at Jaigad fort near >>>>>>>>>>> Ganapatipule. Could this be Haplanthodes plumosa?. Kindly validate >>>>>>>>>>> the ID. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Botanical name:* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Haplanthodes sp. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Family:* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Acanthaceae >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Date/Time-* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 29-03-2010 /11:40 AM >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- * >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jaigad Fort near Ganapatipule- Ratnagiri >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wild >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- * >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Herb >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Height/Length- * >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 30 to 50 cm >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Opposite, 3 to 5 cm, Some leaves were acuminate and some were >>>>>>>>>>> with somewhat rounded apex , hairy, leaf base extending down >>>>>>>>>>> to petiole, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Inflorescence Type/ Size- * >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Photograph enclosed >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Flowers sessile, corolla approx. 8 to 12mm, purple (Photograph >>>>>>>>>>> enclosed) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not known >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- * >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> Prashant >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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