Thank you sir. I still do not know what to make of the difference between the var. under *Haplanthodes tentaculata*.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:16 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, here is the FBI. > > Thank you > Regards > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:14 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, Anurag Ji, I missed the glandular cladode of *H. verticillaris*. >> And also fruit size was unknown to me. Attached here the FBI entries. I >> stressed on calyx character which was not visible in attached pictures, >> couldn't make out length of cladode in various threads. >> >> Thank you very much for those differentiating characters. >> >> Regards >> surajit >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Based on Gamble and Flora of Hassan District (attached), Biodiversity >>> in India >>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=M0ucOe89GZMC&pg=PA592&lpg=PA592&dq=HAPLANTHUS+TENTACULATUS&source=bl&ots=cVvc3YFcOk&sig=307E8rMNGbFkyktAJ3S34098hRc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BnktVefgJ5WmuQSci4DACA&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=HAPLANTHUS%20TENTACULATUS&f=false> >>> and JCB >>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus/page_533.pdf.jpg> >>> : >>> >>> *CHARACTER* >>> >>> *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees >>> >>> *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>> >>> *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight >>> >>> *Haplanthodes nilgherrensis* (Wight) R.B.Majumdar >>> >>> (this column can include the varieties coming under *Haplanthodes >>> tentaculatus- Haplanthus tentaculatus *group) >>> >>> *INFLORESCENCE* >>> >>> ? >>> >>> TERMINAL >>> >>> *CLADODE* >>> >>> .75-1.25 INCH >>> >>> ENDING IN 2 SPINOUS TEETH >>> >>> VILLOUS AND GLANDULAR >>> >>> .5 INCH >>> >>> ENDING IN 2 OR MORE TEETH >>> >>> VILLOUS (NOT GLANDULAR) >>> >>> *CAPSULE* >>> >>> .4 INCH >>> >>> GLABROUS >>> >>> .2 INCH >>> >>> PUBESCENT >>> >>> *SEEDS* >>> >>> 6-16 >>> >>> ? >>> >>> In the above cases, whether we: >>> >>> 1) consider the varieties under *Haplanthodes tentaculatus* (L.) Nees >>> or, >>> 2) think of them as coming under a Haplanthus tentaculatus group; >>> >>> -the clear difference between *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) >>> R.B.Majumdar and the other species (singular/plural) is- *cladodes >>> densely pubescent* *AND* *glandular hairy* in *Haplanthodes >>> verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar while the other is *ONLY *densely >>> pubescent. >>> >>> If this is agreeable, then may be we finally have a definite idea of >>> what is and isn't *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>> based on the cladode being glandular hairy? >>> >>> Please correct me if I have gone wrong anywhere. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes for both of your questions, I think Anurag Ji. >>>> >>>> q1 = ref. >>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus/page_533.pdf.jpg >>>> q2 = I used the term "*H. tentaculatus* group", for the type species >>>> as well as var. *nilgherrensis* and var. *plumosa*. >>>> >>>> *Haplanthodes* is synonymous with *Haplanthus* and also with >>>> *Berekampia* in our cases. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> and also, as a continuation of 2) =*Haplanthus tentaculatus* group? >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sir, >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe I may have a resolving idea to put forth but first I would >>>>>> like to know if: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees = *Haplanthodes verticillatus* >>>>>> (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>>>>> 2) *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight = *Haplanthodes nilgherrensis* >>>>>> (Wight) R.B.Majumdar? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:31 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I asked if any member can access the paper >>>>>>> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3417/2013046. What I come to know >>>>>>> is that *Haplanthodes tentaculatus* (L.) Nees is further divided in >>>>>>> to var. *nilgherryensis >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes/haplanthodes-nilgherrensis>* >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> var. plumosa >>>>>>> <http://plants.jstor.org/stable/history/10.5555/al.ap.specimen.k000885684>, >>>>>>> besides type species. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First, I do not have literature, be it century old, on South Indian >>>>>>> flora. I have never seen one physical species, never before even in >>>>>>> images. The >>>>>>> first time I saw/noticed it in Anurag Ji's thread >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/D5V4vxlW5nc/5q0B7fF9oQ0J> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Second, it appears to me that various uploads of *Haplanthodes*, in >>>>>>> eFI, are very confusing. >>>>>>> Third, internet doesn't feature any photograph of related species >>>>>>> other than those of Dinesh Ji, Prashant Ji and one or two of others. >>>>>>> Fourth, I do not even know how to differentiate *H. verticillatus* from >>>>>>> *H. tentaculatus*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dinesh Ji threw some light - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/NbKZ2cRILsc/znbfFPnQ7iAJ >>>>>>> 2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/C6E9D20qujk/tAcJAwm8ZEEJ >>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/d6pQ0ry1jP0/wfhnGOsjAWEJ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FBI recorded, corolla in *H. verticillatus* (*verticillaris*) is >>>>>>> pale lilac; against dark lilac in >>>>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=151&cat=1 >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> "brilliant blue" in Dinesh Ji's KEY in link1 above. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Prashant Ji has both white & blue colour *H. nilgherryensis*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, it is quite impossible for me to decipher the id of this >>>>>>> species. More so, because except the flowering spikes no detail on >>>>>>> sepals, >>>>>>> sizes of corolla and calyx etc are available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If this belongs to *H. tantaculatus* group it is unlikely to be >>>>>>> var. *plumosa*, because of the following herbarium - >>>>>>> Herb. of *Ruellia tentaculata* - http://linnean-online.org/6882/ >>>>>>> possibly type species - >>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885683 >>>>>>> var. *nilgherrensis* - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885689 >>>>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885688 >>>>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885687 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> var. *plumosa* - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885684 >>>>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885685 >>>>>>> - http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885686 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think var. *plumosa* doesn't have dense spike. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:43 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anybody have access to >>>>>>>> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3417/2013046? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:55 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>> efi page on Haplanthodes plumosa >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes/haplanthodes-plumosa> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes> >>>>>>>>> species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from published >>>>>>>>> papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ books etc., where ever >>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: Prashant Awale <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: 23 March 2015 at 14:03 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:218868] Acanthaceae Fortnight >>>>>>>>> ::Haplanthodes sp? :: Ganapatipule:: PKA-MAR29/29: : >>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>> Came across this Haplanthodes sp. at Jaigad fort near >>>>>>>>> Ganapatipule. Could this be Haplanthodes plumosa?. Kindly validate >>>>>>>>> the ID. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Botanical name:* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Haplanthodes sp. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Family:* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Acanthaceae >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Date/Time-* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 29-03-2010 /11:40 AM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jaigad Fort near Ganapatipule- Ratnagiri >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wild >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Herb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Height/Length- * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 30 to 50 cm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Opposite, 3 to 5 cm, Some leaves were acuminate and some were >>>>>>>>> with somewhat rounded apex , hairy, leaf base extending down to >>>>>>>>> petiole, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Inflorescence Type/ Size- * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Photograph enclosed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Flowers sessile, corolla approx. 8 to 12mm, purple (Photograph >>>>>>>>> enclosed) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not known >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Prashant >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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