Its funny but the whole discussion here is wrong. Taxonomy is an opinion and its the opinion that changes and not the taxonomy. Its an art which different people understand differently. Why this discussion is funny, because: 2.The efloraofindia site lists *Cleome viscosa *as a synonym of* Arivela viscosa* Ref:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- -l/cl/cleomaceae/arivela/cleome-viscosa
NO ITS NOT TRUE ON MY SCREEN. I SEE ARIVELA VISCOA AS SYNONYM OF CLEOME VISCOSA 3.The Plant List reckons *Arivela viscosa* and *Cleome viscosa *as distinct from each other*.* Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=cleome+viscosa Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=cleome+viscosa NO ITS NOT TRUE, I SEE ARIVELA VISCOA AS SYNONYM OF CLEOME VISCOSA Yes to me your plant does look like Cleome viscosa L. (Syn: Arivela viscosa (L.) Raf.). On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:29 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Lalithamba ji. > > On 06-Feb-2018 8:40 PM, "Lalithamba Avadhanam" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The Plant is Cleome viscosa L., >> Regarding name change, after some review by a taxonomist the names may be >> changed; it is a continuous process, hence many plants of so many synonyms, >> As Garg ji said, we have to apply our mind; or if we write the old name it >> should be written with author's name and publication, it is not a great >> error not to know the ever changing names, for we are accustomed to use one >> name for so many years! >> Thank you >> regards >> A.Lalithamba >> >> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:47 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> No single source is the best option. We have to apply our mind to each >>> and every taxon and take our decision according. Accepted name of a taxon >>> keep on changing as you can see from time to time and from one flora to >>> another flora. There are lot of reasons for that. Like some taxonomist >>> splits a genus into many genera resulting in species moving to these >>> different genera. Another taxonomist in future may lump them again into the >>> same genus. Taxonomy is constantly changing with every new publication. As >>> long as we identify a plant correctly, we should be happy without worrying >>> if the name is an accepted name or a synonym. I think in the age of search, >>> we should be quite comfortable with it. >>> Sometimes I do not change to the current names given in say Catalogue of >>> Life, as we have keys of these species only as per the old nomenclature and >>> we are quite used to these names. >>> >>> >>> On 06-Feb-2018 4:05 PM, "Saroj Kumar Kasaju" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Earlier I was following the CofL but some one suggested ( I forgot the >>>> name ) >>>> that the PL is better option. However, I guess we should follow the >>>> CofL for ID >>>> now on wards. But I found some ID completely different in the CofL. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 6:23:53 AM UTC+5:45, JM Garg wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We can check what Catalogue of Life says which has been updated >>>>> recently and appears to be much better than The Plant List. The Plant List >>>>> was based on fixed data provided to them in 2012 by various service >>>>> providers like WCSP etc. The underlined never changed after that. On the >>>>> other hand data in Catalogue is changed on day to day basis and is based >>>>> on >>>>> latest sources. >>>>> >>>>> On 05-Feb-2018 10:06 PM, "tsp kumar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 2.The efloraofindia site lists *Cleome viscosa *as a synonym of* Arivela >>>>>> viscosa* >>>>>> Ref:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- >>>>>> -l/cl/cleomaceae/arivela/cleome-viscosa >>>>>> >>>>>> 3.The Plant List reckons *Arivela viscosa* and *Cleome viscosa *as >>>>>> distinct from each other*.* >>>>>> Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=cleome+viscosa >>>>>> Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Arivela >>>>>> >>>>>> This ambiguity needs to be cleared. >>>>>> regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:28 PM, tsp kumar <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Prashant ji for the lead. >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Prashant Awale <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like Cleome viscosa .. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Prashant >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:16 PM, tsp kumar <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kindly examine and identify this plant. Could this be a *Cleome * >>>>>>>>> sp.....? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Habit: Herb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Habitat: Wild,Wasteland by a roadside >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sighting: Tumkur,Karnataka,about 800 msl >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date: 05-07-2016 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> tspkumar >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Deputy Conservator of Forests (R) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tumkur,Karnataka >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ph:9880571585 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *“We have not inherited this planet from our forefathers, we have >>>>>>>>> borrowed it from our children”-An American proverb* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ITPmods" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ****************************************************** **************************************************************** *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* *Office*: Conservation Officer Orchid Conservation Section Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. *Residence*: House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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