Ok I see that on googlesites of eflora its writen the other way, which is wrong!! Sorry....
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Its funny but the whole discussion here is wrong. > Taxonomy is an opinion and its the opinion that changes and not the > taxonomy. Its an art which different people understand differently. > Why this discussion is funny, because: > 2.The efloraofindia site lists *Cleome viscosa *as a synonym of* Arivela > viscosa* > Ref:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- > -l/cl/cleomaceae/arivela/cleome-viscosa > > NO ITS NOT TRUE ON MY SCREEN. I SEE ARIVELA VISCOA AS SYNONYM OF CLEOME > VISCOSA > > 3.The Plant List reckons *Arivela viscosa* and *Cleome viscosa *as > distinct from each other*.* > Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=cleome+viscosa > Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=cleome+viscosa > > NO ITS NOT TRUE, I SEE ARIVELA VISCOA AS SYNONYM OF CLEOME VISCOSA > > Yes to me your plant does look like Cleome viscosa L. (Syn: Arivela > viscosa (L.) Raf.). > > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:29 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Lalithamba ji. >> >> On 06-Feb-2018 8:40 PM, "Lalithamba Avadhanam" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The Plant is Cleome viscosa L., >>> Regarding name change, after some review by a taxonomist the names may >>> be changed; it is a continuous process, hence many plants of so many >>> synonyms, As Garg ji said, we have to apply our mind; or if we write the >>> old name it should be written with author's name and publication, it is not >>> a great error not to know the ever changing names, for we are accustomed to >>> use one name for so many years! >>> Thank you >>> regards >>> A.Lalithamba >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:47 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> No single source is the best option. We have to apply our mind to each >>>> and every taxon and take our decision according. Accepted name of a taxon >>>> keep on changing as you can see from time to time and from one flora to >>>> another flora. There are lot of reasons for that. Like some taxonomist >>>> splits a genus into many genera resulting in species moving to these >>>> different genera. Another taxonomist in future may lump them again into the >>>> same genus. Taxonomy is constantly changing with every new publication. As >>>> long as we identify a plant correctly, we should be happy without worrying >>>> if the name is an accepted name or a synonym. I think in the age of search, >>>> we should be quite comfortable with it. >>>> Sometimes I do not change to the current names given in say Catalogue >>>> of Life, as we have keys of these species only as per the old nomenclature >>>> and we are quite used to these names. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 06-Feb-2018 4:05 PM, "Saroj Kumar Kasaju" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Earlier I was following the CofL but some one suggested ( I forgot the >>>>> name ) >>>>> that the PL is better option. However, I guess we should follow the >>>>> CofL for ID >>>>> now on wards. But I found some ID completely different in the CofL. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 6:23:53 AM UTC+5:45, JM Garg wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We can check what Catalogue of Life says which has been updated >>>>>> recently and appears to be much better than The Plant List. The Plant >>>>>> List >>>>>> was based on fixed data provided to them in 2012 by various service >>>>>> providers like WCSP etc. The underlined never changed after that. On the >>>>>> other hand data in Catalogue is changed on day to day basis and is based >>>>>> on >>>>>> latest sources. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 05-Feb-2018 10:06 PM, "tsp kumar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2.The efloraofindia site lists *Cleome viscosa *as a synonym of* Arivela >>>>>>> viscosa* >>>>>>> Ref:https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a-- >>>>>>> -l/cl/cleomaceae/arivela/cleome-viscosa >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3.The Plant List reckons *Arivela viscosa* and *Cleome viscosa *as >>>>>>> distinct from each other*.* >>>>>>> Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=cleome+viscosa >>>>>>> Ref - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Arivela >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This ambiguity needs to be cleared. >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:28 PM, tsp kumar <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Prashant ji for the lead. >>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Prashant Awale <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks like Cleome viscosa .. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Prashant >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:16 PM, tsp kumar <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kindly examine and identify this plant. Could this be a *Cleome * >>>>>>>>>> sp.....? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Habit: Herb >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Wild,Wasteland by a roadside >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sighting: Tumkur,Karnataka,about 800 msl >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Date: 05-07-2016 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> tspkumar >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Deputy Conservator of Forests (R) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tumkur,Karnataka >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ph:9880571585 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *“We have not inherited this planet from our forefathers, we have >>>>>>>>>> borrowed it from our children”-An American proverb* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ITPmods" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/itpmods. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > ************************************************************ > ********************************************************** > *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. > *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* > > *Office*: > > Conservation Officer > > Orchid Conservation Section > > Flora Conservation Department > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > *Residence*: > House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen > Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] > *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 <2483%207128> (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 > 9436 6251 <9436%206251> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 <2483%207194> > > -- ****************************************************** **************************************************************** *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* *Office*: Conservation Officer Orchid Conservation Section Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. *Residence*: House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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