Yes Vijayasankar ji You are right. The plant has alternate leaves. The search is on, the plant may not be Tamala after all.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, R. Vijayasankar <[email protected]>wrote: > Dear Gurcharan ji & Subrata ji, > > To me it doesn't look like Garcinia. As far as i know, Garcinia species > generally have opposite, subfleshy and glabrous leaves. The leaf in the > picture is alternate, chartaceous and hairy. So, i think it can't be > Garcinia. It someway looks like Diospyros though not sure. More details > required to id it. > > With regards > > R. Vijayasankar > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Subrata ji >> All three are supposed to produce fruits. The mangostreen G. mangostana >> has 6-8 cm diam fruits, dark purple when ripe with 5-8 seeds; The sour >> mangosteen, G. xanthochymus has dark yellow fruit 5-8 cm in diam with 5 >> seeds, where as Indian Gamboge tree G. morella has much smaller about 2 cm >> across fruit with 4 seeds. The tree usually has numerous male flowers and a >> few female and bisexual ones. Check for both types of flowers, essential for >> seed set. The occurrence of single tree may be the problem. It is reported >> that in many species of Garcinia young trees produce male flowers and old >> trees female flowers, and as such presence of both young and old trees is >> necessary for fruit set. You may please check this aspect. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Dr. Singh for your illuminating note. One difficulty i face. >>> Garcinia xanthochymus bears fruits (see attached photo) but this one does >>> not as obseved by people in the Math. Regards >>> May 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The name Tamala in Sanskrit is shared by two species Garcinia >>>> xanthochymus Hook.f. (syn: G. tinctoria Dunn.) and G. morella Desr. They >>>> also share Hindi name Tamal. Other names include: >>>> >>>> G. xanthochymus G. morella >>>> Beng: Chalata, tamal Tamal >>>> Mar: Jharambi, ota Tamal >>>> Tel: Ivarumidi, tamalamu Pasupuvarne, >>>> revalchinni >>>> Tam: Kulavi, malaippachai, mukki, tamalam Makki, solaipulippuli >>>> Kan: Devagarige, janagi Devagarige >>>> Mal: Anavaya, Chigiri, >>>> daramba, karukkampuli, pinnarpuli >>>> Oriya:Cheoro, sitambu >>>> Nepal:Chunyei >>>> Assam: >>>> Kuji-thekera >>>> >>>> Looking at the shape of leaves the plant to me it looks like G. >>>> xanthochymus which has narrower but longer (15-25 cm long) thicker leaves >>>> as >>>> compared to somewhat thinner but broader and shorter (8-12 cm long) leaves. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> About two years back we had long discussion on "Tamala". >>>>> Ayurvedacharya Shibkali Bhattacharya says Tamala is Garcinia xanthochymus. >>>>> English name is Sour Mangosteen which has come from Malayan word >>>>> mangustan. >>>>> The tree with its fruita and leaves were shown at that time. >>>>> Recently we visited Belur Math. Swamiji brought one Tamala from >>>>> Brindaban and planted it some 40 years back. It has grown about 20 ft >>>>> tall. >>>>> It flowes in spring; small yellowish white flower. It bears no fruit. I am >>>>> attaching a part of a twig and a leaf. 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