Gurcharanji, Kindly let us know the native languages names and also the English name of Diospyros montana. Thanks, Subrata
On May 17, 4:21 am, "R. Vijayasankar" <[email protected]> wrote: > Diospyros montana male flowers picture from > net:http://www.petprauma.com/plant/makleo01.jpg > > With regards > > R. Vijayasankar > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:04 PM, R. Vijayasankar > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > If it is confirmed as Diospyros montana (pl try to send flower pictures), > > and if it flowers and doesn't produce any fruits, then it should be a 'male' > > tree! obviously it will never set fruit!! > > > With regards > > > R. Vijayasankar > > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Subrata Mahapatra < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > >> Friends, > >> One thing we are sure that it flowers in spring and has small white/yellow > >> flowers. It does not bear fruit. So if Diospyros montana can fulfil the > >> above two conditions it is D. montana. Will the experts kindly verify . > >> Regards > >> Subrata > > >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Gurcharan Singh > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>> Yes Vijayasankar ji > >>> You are right. The plant has alternate leaves. The search is on, the > >>> plant may not be Tamala after all. > > >>> -- > >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>> Retired Associate Professor > >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > >>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, R. Vijayasankar < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Dear Gurcharan ji & Subrata ji, > > >>>> To me it doesn't look like Garcinia. As far as i know, Garcinia species > >>>> generally have opposite, subfleshy and glabrous leaves. The leaf in the > >>>> picture is alternate, chartaceous and hairy. So, i think it can't be > >>>> Garcinia. It someway looks like Diospyros though not sure. More details > >>>> required to id it. > > >>>> With regards > > >>>> R. Vijayasankar > > >>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected] > >>>> > wrote: > > >>>>> Subrata ji > >>>>> All three are supposed to produce fruits. The mangostreen G. mangostana > >>>>> has 6-8 cm diam fruits, dark purple when ripe with 5-8 seeds; The sour > >>>>> mangosteen, G. xanthochymus has dark yellow fruit 5-8 cm in diam with 5 > >>>>> seeds, where as Indian Gamboge tree G. morella has much smaller about 2 > >>>>> cm > >>>>> across fruit with 4 seeds. The tree usually has numerous male flowers > >>>>> and a > >>>>> few female and bisexual ones. Check for both types of flowers, > >>>>> essential for > >>>>> seed set. The occurrence of single tree may be the problem. It is > >>>>> reported > >>>>> that in many species of Garcinia young trees produce male flowers and > >>>>> old > >>>>> trees female flowers, and as such presence of both young and old trees > >>>>> is > >>>>> necessary for fruit set. You may please check this aspect. > > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > >>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> Thank you Dr. Singh for your illuminating note. One difficulty i face. > >>>>>> Garcinia xanthochymus bears fruits (see attached photo) but this one > >>>>>> does > >>>>>> not as obseved by people in the Math. Regards > >>>>>> May 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>>>>>> The name Tamala in Sanskrit is shared by two species Garcinia > >>>>>>> xanthochymus Hook.f. (syn: G. tinctoria Dunn.) and G. morella Desr. > >>>>>>> They > >>>>>>> also share Hindi name Tamal. Other names include: > > >>>>>>> G. xanthochymus G. morella > >>>>>>> Beng: Chalata, tamal Tamal > >>>>>>> Mar: Jharambi, ota Tamal > >>>>>>> Tel: Ivarumidi, tamalamu > >>>>>>> Pasupuvarne, revalchinni > >>>>>>> Tam: Kulavi, malaippachai, mukki, tamalam Makki, solaipulippuli > >>>>>>> Kan: Devagarige, janagi Devagarige > >>>>>>> Mal: Anavaya, > >>>>>>> Chigiri, daramba, karukkampuli, pinnarpuli > >>>>>>> Oriya:Cheoro, sitambu > >>>>>>> Nepal:Chunyei > >>>>>>> Assam: > >>>>>>> Kuji-thekera > > >>>>>>> Looking at the shape of leaves the plant to me it looks like G. > >>>>>>> xanthochymus which has narrower but longer (15-25 cm long) thicker > >>>>>>> leaves as > >>>>>>> compared to somewhat thinner but broader and shorter (8-12 cm long) > >>>>>>> leaves. > > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < > >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> About two years back we had long discussion on "Tamala". > >>>>>>>> Ayurvedacharya Shibkali Bhattacharya says Tamala is Garcinia > >>>>>>>> xanthochymus. > >>>>>>>> English name is Sour Mangosteen which has come from Malayan word > >>>>>>>> mangustan. > >>>>>>>> The tree with its fruita and leaves were shown at that time. > >>>>>>>> Recently we visited Belur Math. Swamiji brought one Tamala from > >>>>>>>> Brindaban and planted it some 40 years back. It has grown about 20 > >>>>>>>> ft tall. > >>>>>>>> It flowes in spring; small yellowish white flower. It bears no > >>>>>>>> fruit. I am > >>>>>>>> attaching a part of a twig and a leaf. 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