Diospyros montana male flowers picture from net: http://www.petprauma.com/plant/makleo01.jpg
With regards R. Vijayasankar On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:04 PM, R. Vijayasankar <[email protected]>wrote: > If it is confirmed as Diospyros montana (pl try to send flower pictures), > and if it flowers and doesn't produce any fruits, then it should be a 'male' > tree! obviously it will never set fruit!! > > With regards > > R. Vijayasankar > > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Subrata Mahapatra < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Friends, >> One thing we are sure that it flowers in spring and has small white/yellow >> flowers. It does not bear fruit. So if Diospyros montana can fulfil the >> above two conditions it is D. montana. Will the experts kindly verify . >> Regards >> Subrata >> >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Yes Vijayasankar ji >>> You are right. The plant has alternate leaves. The search is on, the >>> plant may not be Tamala after all. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, R. Vijayasankar < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Gurcharan ji & Subrata ji, >>>> >>>> To me it doesn't look like Garcinia. As far as i know, Garcinia species >>>> generally have opposite, subfleshy and glabrous leaves. The leaf in the >>>> picture is alternate, chartaceous and hairy. So, i think it can't be >>>> Garcinia. It someway looks like Diospyros though not sure. More details >>>> required to id it. >>>> >>>> With regards >>>> >>>> R. Vijayasankar >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Subrata ji >>>>> All three are supposed to produce fruits. The mangostreen G. mangostana >>>>> has 6-8 cm diam fruits, dark purple when ripe with 5-8 seeds; The sour >>>>> mangosteen, G. xanthochymus has dark yellow fruit 5-8 cm in diam with 5 >>>>> seeds, where as Indian Gamboge tree G. morella has much smaller about 2 cm >>>>> across fruit with 4 seeds. The tree usually has numerous male flowers and >>>>> a >>>>> few female and bisexual ones. Check for both types of flowers, essential >>>>> for >>>>> seed set. The occurrence of single tree may be the problem. It is reported >>>>> that in many species of Garcinia young trees produce male flowers and old >>>>> trees female flowers, and as such presence of both young and old trees is >>>>> necessary for fruit set. You may please check this aspect. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you Dr. Singh for your illuminating note. One difficulty i face. >>>>>> Garcinia xanthochymus bears fruits (see attached photo) but this one does >>>>>> not as obseved by people in the Math. Regards >>>>>> May 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The name Tamala in Sanskrit is shared by two species Garcinia >>>>>>> xanthochymus Hook.f. (syn: G. tinctoria Dunn.) and G. morella Desr. They >>>>>>> also share Hindi name Tamal. Other names include: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> G. xanthochymus G. morella >>>>>>> Beng: Chalata, tamal Tamal >>>>>>> Mar: Jharambi, ota Tamal >>>>>>> Tel: Ivarumidi, tamalamu >>>>>>> Pasupuvarne, revalchinni >>>>>>> Tam: Kulavi, malaippachai, mukki, tamalam Makki, solaipulippuli >>>>>>> Kan: Devagarige, janagi Devagarige >>>>>>> Mal: Anavaya, >>>>>>> Chigiri, daramba, karukkampuli, pinnarpuli >>>>>>> Oriya:Cheoro, sitambu >>>>>>> Nepal:Chunyei >>>>>>> Assam: >>>>>>> Kuji-thekera >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looking at the shape of leaves the plant to me it looks like G. >>>>>>> xanthochymus which has narrower but longer (15-25 cm long) thicker >>>>>>> leaves as >>>>>>> compared to somewhat thinner but broader and shorter (8-12 cm long) >>>>>>> leaves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> About two years back we had long discussion on "Tamala". >>>>>>>> Ayurvedacharya Shibkali Bhattacharya says Tamala is Garcinia >>>>>>>> xanthochymus. >>>>>>>> English name is Sour Mangosteen which has come from Malayan word >>>>>>>> mangustan. >>>>>>>> The tree with its fruita and leaves were shown at that time. >>>>>>>> Recently we visited Belur Math. Swamiji brought one Tamala from >>>>>>>> Brindaban and planted it some 40 years back. It has grown about 20 ft >>>>>>>> tall. >>>>>>>> It flowes in spring; small yellowish white flower. It bears no fruit. >>>>>>>> I am >>>>>>>> attaching a part of a twig and a leaf. 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