Subrata ji Here are the names: Diospyros montana Roxb. English: Mountain persimon Sans.: Tamala Hindi: Bistendu, tendu Beng.: Bangab Mar.: Goindu, timru Guj.: Timbarao Tel.: Eddayagata, gatugata Tam.: Vakkanai, vakkanattan Kanm.: Jagalaganti, balagunike Oriya: Bhodrika Punjab: Hirek, Kendu M. P.: Kadal, kanchau
Source of Bombay ebony, crushed leaves and fruits used for stupefying fish; fruit crushed and applied externally to boils. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:52 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > Gurcharanji, > Kindly let us know the native languages names and also the English > name of Diospyros montana. Thanks, > Subrata > > On May 17, 4:21 am, "R. Vijayasankar" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Diospyros montana male flowers picture from net: > http://www.petprauma.com/plant/makleo01.jpg > > > > With regards > > > > R. Vijayasankar > > > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:04 PM, R. Vijayasankar > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is confirmed as Diospyros montana (pl try to send flower > pictures), > > > and if it flowers and doesn't produce any fruits, then it should be a > 'male' > > > tree! obviously it will never set fruit!! > > > > > With regards > > > > > R. Vijayasankar > > > > > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Subrata Mahapatra < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Friends, > > >> One thing we are sure that it flowers in spring and has small > white/yellow > > >> flowers. It does not bear fruit. So if Diospyros montana can fulfil > the > > >> above two conditions it is D. montana. Will the experts kindly verify > . > > >> Regards > > >> Subrata > > > > >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Gurcharan Singh < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > >>> Yes Vijayasankar ji > > >>> You are right. The plant has alternate leaves. The search is on, the > > >>> plant may not be Tamala after all. > > > > >>> -- > > >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > >>> Retired Associate Professor > > >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > >>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > >>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, R. Vijayasankar < > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>> Dear Gurcharan ji & Subrata ji, > > > > >>>> To me it doesn't look like Garcinia. As far as i know, Garcinia > species > > >>>> generally have opposite, subfleshy and glabrous leaves. The leaf in > the > > >>>> picture is alternate, chartaceous and hairy. So, i think it can't be > > >>>> Garcinia. It someway looks like Diospyros though not sure. More > details > > >>>> required to id it. > > > > >>>> With regards > > > > >>>> R. Vijayasankar > > > > >>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Gurcharan Singh < > [email protected] > > >>>> > wrote: > > > > >>>>> Subrata ji > > >>>>> All three are supposed to produce fruits. The mangostreen G. > mangostana > > >>>>> has 6-8 cm diam fruits, dark purple when ripe with 5-8 seeds; The > sour > > >>>>> mangosteen, G. xanthochymus has dark yellow fruit 5-8 cm in diam > with 5 > > >>>>> seeds, where as Indian Gamboge tree G. morella has much smaller > about 2 cm > > >>>>> across fruit with 4 seeds. The tree usually has numerous male > flowers and a > > >>>>> few female and bisexual ones. Check for both types of flowers, > essential for > > >>>>> seed set. The occurrence of single tree may be the problem. It is > reported > > >>>>> that in many species of Garcinia young trees produce male flowers > and old > > >>>>> trees female flowers, and as such presence of both young and old > trees is > > >>>>> necessary for fruit set. You may please check this aspect. > > > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > >>>>> Retired Associate Professor > > >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > >>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > >>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < > > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> Thank you Dr. Singh for your illuminating note. One difficulty i > face. > > >>>>>> Garcinia xanthochymus bears fruits (see attached photo) but this > one does > > >>>>>> not as obseved by people in the Math. Regards > > >>>>>> May 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> The name Tamala in Sanskrit is shared by two species Garcinia > > >>>>>>> xanthochymus Hook.f. (syn: G. tinctoria Dunn.) and G. morella > Desr. They > > >>>>>>> also share Hindi name Tamal. Other names include: > > > > >>>>>>> G. xanthochymus G. > morella > > >>>>>>> Beng: Chalata, tamal Tamal > > >>>>>>> Mar: Jharambi, ota Tamal > > >>>>>>> Tel: Ivarumidi, tamalamu > > >>>>>>> Pasupuvarne, revalchinni > > >>>>>>> Tam: Kulavi, malaippachai, mukki, tamalam Makki, > solaipulippuli > > >>>>>>> Kan: Devagarige, janagi > Devagarige > > >>>>>>> Mal: Anavaya, > > >>>>>>> Chigiri, daramba, karukkampuli, pinnarpuli > > >>>>>>> Oriya:Cheoro, sitambu > > >>>>>>> Nepal:Chunyei > > >>>>>>> Assam: > > >>>>>>> Kuji-thekera > > > > >>>>>>> Looking at the shape of leaves the plant to me it looks like G. > > >>>>>>> xanthochymus which has narrower but longer (15-25 cm long) > thicker leaves as > > >>>>>>> compared to somewhat thinner but broader and shorter (8-12 cm > long) leaves. > > > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor > > >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > >>>>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > > >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor > > >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > > >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > > >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > > >>>>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > >>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < > > >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> About two years back we had long discussion on "Tamala". > > >>>>>>>> Ayurvedacharya Shibkali Bhattacharya says Tamala is Garcinia > xanthochymus. > > >>>>>>>> English name is Sour Mangosteen which has come from Malayan word > mangustan. > > >>>>>>>> The tree with its fruita and leaves were shown at that time. > > >>>>>>>> Recently we visited Belur Math. Swamiji brought one Tamala from > > >>>>>>>> Brindaban and planted it some 40 years back. It has grown about > 20 ft tall. > > >>>>>>>> It flowes in spring; small yellowish white flower. It bears no > fruit. I am > > >>>>>>>> attaching a part of a twig and a leaf. 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