I think its a species of Diospyros, likely to be D.montana

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On May 15, 8:13 am, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes Vijayasankar ji
> You are right. The plant has alternate leaves. The search is on, the plant
> may not be Tamala after all.
>
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>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, R. Vijayasankar
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear Gurcharan ji & Subrata ji,
>
> > To me it doesn't look like Garcinia. As far as i know, Garcinia species
> > generally have opposite, subfleshy and glabrous leaves. The leaf in the
> > picture is alternate, chartaceous and hairy. So, i think it can't be
> > Garcinia. It someway looks like Diospyros though not sure. More details
> > required to id it.
>
> > With regards
>
> > R. Vijayasankar
>
> > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >> Subrata ji
> >> All three are supposed to produce fruits. The mangostreen G. mangostana
> >> has 6-8 cm diam fruits, dark purple when ripe with 5-8 seeds; The sour
> >> mangosteen, G. xanthochymus has dark yellow fruit 5-8 cm in diam with 5
> >> seeds, where as Indian Gamboge tree G. morella has much smaller about 2 cm
> >> across fruit with 4 seeds. The tree usually has numerous male flowers and a
> >> few female and bisexual ones. Check for both types of flowers, essential 
> >> for
> >> seed set. The occurrence of single tree may be the problem. It is reported
> >> that in many species of Garcinia young trees produce male flowers and old
> >> trees female flowers, and as such presence of both young and old trees is
> >> necessary for fruit set. You may please check this aspect.
>
> >> --
> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >> Retired  Associate Professor
> >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Subrata Mahapatra <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Thank you Dr. Singh for your illuminating note. One difficulty i face.
> >>> Garcinia xanthochymus bears fruits (see attached photo) but this one does
> >>> not as obseved by people in the Math. Regards
> >>>    May 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> The name Tamala in Sanskrit is shared by two species Garcinia
> >>>> xanthochymus Hook.f. (syn: G. tinctoria Dunn.) and G. morella Desr. They
> >>>> also share Hindi name Tamal. Other names include:
>
> >>>>            G. xanthochymus                               G. morella
> >>>> Beng:  Chalata, tamal                                     Tamal
> >>>> Mar:    Jharambi, ota                                       Tamal
> >>>> Tel:     Ivarumidi, tamalamu                               Pasupuvarne,
> >>>> revalchinni
> >>>> Tam:   Kulavi, malaippachai, mukki, tamalam     Makki, solaipulippuli
> >>>> Kan:   Devagarige, janagi                                  Devagarige
> >>>> Mal:   Anavaya,                                                Chigiri,
> >>>> daramba, karukkampuli, pinnarpuli
> >>>> Oriya:Cheoro, sitambu
> >>>> Nepal:Chunyei
> >>>> Assam:
> >>>> Kuji-thekera
>
> >>>> Looking at the shape of leaves the plant to me it looks like G.
> >>>> xanthochymus which has narrower but longer (15-25 cm long) thicker 
> >>>> leaves as
> >>>> compared to somewhat thinner but broader and shorter (8-12 cm long) 
> >>>> leaves.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >>>> Retired  Associate Professor
> >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> >>>> Retired  Associate Professor
> >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> >>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >>>>   On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Subrata Mahapatra <
> >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>   About two years back we had long discussion on "Tamala".
> >>>>> Ayurvedacharya Shibkali Bhattacharya says Tamala is Garcinia 
> >>>>> xanthochymus.
> >>>>> English name is Sour Mangosteen which has come from Malayan word 
> >>>>> mangustan.
> >>>>> The tree with its fruita and leaves were shown at that time.
> >>>>> Recently we visited Belur Math. Swamiji brought one Tamala from
> >>>>> Brindaban and planted it some 40 years back. It has grown about 20 ft 
> >>>>> tall.
> >>>>> It flowes in spring; small yellowish white flower. It bears no fruit. I 
> >>>>> am
> >>>>> attaching a part of a twig and a leaf. Kindly identify.
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Subrata Mahapatra
>
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