If it is confirmed as Diospyros montana (pl try to send flower pictures), and if it flowers and doesn't produce any fruits, then it should be a 'male' tree! obviously it will never set fruit!!
With regards R. Vijayasankar On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Subrata Mahapatra <[email protected]>wrote: > Friends, > One thing we are sure that it flowers in spring and has small white/yellow > flowers. It does not bear fruit. So if Diospyros montana can fulfil the > above two conditions it is D. montana. Will the experts kindly verify . > Regards > Subrata > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yes Vijayasankar ji >> You are right. The plant has alternate leaves. The search is on, the plant >> may not be Tamala after all. >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, R. Vijayasankar < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Gurcharan ji & Subrata ji, >>> >>> To me it doesn't look like Garcinia. As far as i know, Garcinia species >>> generally have opposite, subfleshy and glabrous leaves. The leaf in the >>> picture is alternate, chartaceous and hairy. So, i think it can't be >>> Garcinia. It someway looks like Diospyros though not sure. More details >>> required to id it. >>> >>> With regards >>> >>> R. Vijayasankar >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Subrata ji >>>> All three are supposed to produce fruits. The mangostreen G. mangostana >>>> has 6-8 cm diam fruits, dark purple when ripe with 5-8 seeds; The sour >>>> mangosteen, G. xanthochymus has dark yellow fruit 5-8 cm in diam with 5 >>>> seeds, where as Indian Gamboge tree G. morella has much smaller about 2 cm >>>> across fruit with 4 seeds. The tree usually has numerous male flowers and a >>>> few female and bisexual ones. Check for both types of flowers, essential >>>> for >>>> seed set. The occurrence of single tree may be the problem. It is reported >>>> that in many species of Garcinia young trees produce male flowers and old >>>> trees female flowers, and as such presence of both young and old trees is >>>> necessary for fruit set. You may please check this aspect. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you Dr. Singh for your illuminating note. One difficulty i face. >>>>> Garcinia xanthochymus bears fruits (see attached photo) but this one does >>>>> not as obseved by people in the Math. Regards >>>>> May 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The name Tamala in Sanskrit is shared by two species Garcinia >>>>>> xanthochymus Hook.f. (syn: G. tinctoria Dunn.) and G. morella Desr. They >>>>>> also share Hindi name Tamal. Other names include: >>>>>> >>>>>> G. xanthochymus G. morella >>>>>> Beng: Chalata, tamal Tamal >>>>>> Mar: Jharambi, ota Tamal >>>>>> Tel: Ivarumidi, tamalamu >>>>>> Pasupuvarne, revalchinni >>>>>> Tam: Kulavi, malaippachai, mukki, tamalam Makki, solaipulippuli >>>>>> Kan: Devagarige, janagi Devagarige >>>>>> Mal: Anavaya, >>>>>> Chigiri, daramba, karukkampuli, pinnarpuli >>>>>> Oriya:Cheoro, sitambu >>>>>> Nepal:Chunyei >>>>>> Assam: >>>>>> Kuji-thekera >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking at the shape of leaves the plant to me it looks like G. >>>>>> xanthochymus which has narrower but longer (15-25 cm long) thicker >>>>>> leaves as >>>>>> compared to somewhat thinner but broader and shorter (8-12 cm long) >>>>>> leaves. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> About two years back we had long discussion on "Tamala". >>>>>>> Ayurvedacharya Shibkali Bhattacharya says Tamala is Garcinia >>>>>>> xanthochymus. >>>>>>> English name is Sour Mangosteen which has come from Malayan word >>>>>>> mangustan. >>>>>>> The tree with its fruita and leaves were shown at that time. >>>>>>> Recently we visited Belur Math. Swamiji brought one Tamala from >>>>>>> Brindaban and planted it some 40 years back. It has grown about 20 ft >>>>>>> tall. >>>>>>> It flowes in spring; small yellowish white flower. It bears no fruit. I >>>>>>> am >>>>>>> attaching a part of a twig and a leaf. 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