Friends, One thing we are sure that it flowers in spring and has small white/yellow flowers. It does not bear fruit. So if Diospyros montana can fulfil the above two conditions it is D. montana. Will the experts kindly verify . Regards Subrata
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes Vijayasankar ji > You are right. The plant has alternate leaves. The search is on, the plant > may not be Tamala after all. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, R. Vijayasankar <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Dear Gurcharan ji & Subrata ji, >> >> To me it doesn't look like Garcinia. As far as i know, Garcinia species >> generally have opposite, subfleshy and glabrous leaves. The leaf in the >> picture is alternate, chartaceous and hairy. So, i think it can't be >> Garcinia. It someway looks like Diospyros though not sure. More details >> required to id it. >> >> With regards >> >> R. Vijayasankar >> >> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Gurcharan Singh >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Subrata ji >>> All three are supposed to produce fruits. The mangostreen G. mangostana >>> has 6-8 cm diam fruits, dark purple when ripe with 5-8 seeds; The sour >>> mangosteen, G. xanthochymus has dark yellow fruit 5-8 cm in diam with 5 >>> seeds, where as Indian Gamboge tree G. morella has much smaller about 2 cm >>> across fruit with 4 seeds. The tree usually has numerous male flowers and a >>> few female and bisexual ones. Check for both types of flowers, essential for >>> seed set. The occurrence of single tree may be the problem. It is reported >>> that in many species of Garcinia young trees produce male flowers and old >>> trees female flowers, and as such presence of both young and old trees is >>> necessary for fruit set. You may please check this aspect. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Dr. Singh for your illuminating note. One difficulty i face. >>>> Garcinia xanthochymus bears fruits (see attached photo) but this one does >>>> not as obseved by people in the Math. Regards >>>> May 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The name Tamala in Sanskrit is shared by two species Garcinia >>>>> xanthochymus Hook.f. (syn: G. tinctoria Dunn.) and G. morella Desr. They >>>>> also share Hindi name Tamal. Other names include: >>>>> >>>>> G. xanthochymus G. morella >>>>> Beng: Chalata, tamal Tamal >>>>> Mar: Jharambi, ota Tamal >>>>> Tel: Ivarumidi, tamalamu Pasupuvarne, >>>>> revalchinni >>>>> Tam: Kulavi, malaippachai, mukki, tamalam Makki, solaipulippuli >>>>> Kan: Devagarige, janagi Devagarige >>>>> Mal: Anavaya, Chigiri, >>>>> daramba, karukkampuli, pinnarpuli >>>>> Oriya:Cheoro, sitambu >>>>> Nepal:Chunyei >>>>> Assam: >>>>> Kuji-thekera >>>>> >>>>> Looking at the shape of leaves the plant to me it looks like G. >>>>> xanthochymus which has narrower but longer (15-25 cm long) thicker leaves >>>>> as >>>>> compared to somewhat thinner but broader and shorter (8-12 cm long) >>>>> leaves. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Subrata Mahapatra < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> About two years back we had long discussion on "Tamala". >>>>>> Ayurvedacharya Shibkali Bhattacharya says Tamala is Garcinia >>>>>> xanthochymus. >>>>>> English name is Sour Mangosteen which has come from Malayan word >>>>>> mangustan. >>>>>> The tree with its fruita and leaves were shown at that time. >>>>>> Recently we visited Belur Math. Swamiji brought one Tamala from >>>>>> Brindaban and planted it some 40 years back. It has grown about 20 ft >>>>>> tall. >>>>>> It flowes in spring; small yellowish white flower. It bears no fruit. I >>>>>> am >>>>>> attaching a part of a twig and a leaf. 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