Sir ji, is there any possibility of *Steudnera colocasioides *? Please check the spadix at* - http://www.aroidpictures.fr/GENERA/STEUDNERA/steudcolocasioides.html <http://www.aroidpictures.fr/GENERA/STEUDNERA/steudcolocasioides.html>*
life is short time is running out don't try to know everything utilize what you already know On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 22:09, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, Sir ji, photographic illusions are quite possible. > > life is short > time is running out > don't try to know everything > utilize what you already know > > > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 21:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Surajit ji. >> To me relative size of spathe, ovule and leaves appears to be OK. >> Actually close up images (making them look appear large) has confused us, >> into thinking this to be an Alocasia. >> -- >> With regards, >> J. M. Garg >> >> On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 9:05 pm surajit koley, < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I am not acquainted with this genus, Sir ji. >>> Yet, I do not think it can be *Remusatia hookeriana* -(1) as per >>> Fl.Br.Ind., spathe max 2.5 inch, / 7 cm max.- FoC) (2) spadix max. 11+7+9 = >>> 27 mm = 1 inch approx (check FoC). >>> The spadix in this thread looks much longer, though actual size can only >>> be verified by Sawmliana ji. >>> >>> >>> life is short >>> time is running out >>> don't try to know everything >>> utilize what you already know >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 16:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think it may be some Remusatia >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/12/09/remusatia/> species as per >>>> comparative images herein, mostly *Remusatia hookeriana* Schott >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/araceae/remusatia/remusatia-hookeriana> >>>> as >>>> per details and images herein and as per Flora of China keys >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128128>, >>>> FoC illustrations- one >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122221&flora_id=2>, >>>> two >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122222&flora_id=2>, >>>> three >>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122223&flora_id=2> >>>> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2871961> >>>> specimens - one >>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1489692%3AMICH-V-1489692%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg>, >>>> two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998711321>, three >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998395449>, four >>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F616588.jpg> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 at 12:42, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would like to add one more point - I never came across any such >>>>> phrase that "shiny leaf means *Alocasia*." >>>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 20:31, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Sawmliana ji, >>>>>> I know I am asking for too much! Please understand that I am no >>>>>> expert on *Alocasia* or *Colocasia*, I am here too to learn >>>>>> something about plant-world. However, I do know what a flower of *A. >>>>>> fornicata* look like. And I believe that identification based on >>>>>> leaf morphology can mislead, specially in case of *Alocasia* or >>>>>> *Colocasia*. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have doubt if your plant can be *Alocasia fornicata* - flowers are >>>>>> not like the ones I see here.- (a) floral chamber and spathe appear to be >>>>>> narrower and more elongated in your species, (b) spadix is different. >>>>>> I do not know if the above characters can be regional variation. >>>>>> I attach here description of *Alocasia fornicata* from the booh, >>>>>> "Botany of Bihar and Orissa". >>>>>> Also attached an edited picture for your perusal, along with other >>>>>> pictures (one immature flower and the other mature) of *Alocasia >>>>>> fornicata flower *that I recorded. >>>>>> >>>>>> And KEY is there in a private mail for certain spp of *Alocasia*. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 07:16, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Please send me the flower to examine physically. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 21:28, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not convinced about it being Alocasia *fallax* as per GBIF >>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329901> specimens or *Alocasia >>>>>>>> decipiens* as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329954>. >>>>>>>> What I see here is shining leaves with clear tertiary veins and >>>>>>>> contrasting colours of both sides of the leave, as can be seen in >>>>>>>> GBIF >>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&country=TH&country=LK&country=US&country=VN&country=ZZ&taxon_key=5329964> >>>>>>>> specimens of Alocasia fornicata at one >>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F711058.jpg>, >>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3dc41e73e-6e95-4bda-9d8c-a948f6944a0f>, >>>>>>>> three >>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1415396%2Fformat%2Flarge>, >>>>>>>> four >>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3c20a6c8e-b68f-4408-9982-5b468ca20148>, >>>>>>>> five >>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm376252f4a-9298-45c5-8c5a-fe20d8152bc8>, >>>>>>>> six >>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm35f65b9c9-43fe-448a-b8dd-c3fe4902abe2>. >>>>>>>> It also have distribution in the area as per POWO >>>>>>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:84168-1> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> However, I am not sure. >>>>>>>> Pl. confirm or otherwise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 at 13:25 >>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:226503] MSJune,2015/06 Araceae >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Location : Buarpui - W.Bungtlang road >>>>>>>> Date : 24/06/2015 >>>>>>>> Habit : Herb >>>>>>>> Habitat : Wild in the forests >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAMV_mc2eEygEWpjmCV4a7dq8YC%2BMFe%3DPN%2B%2BOZtesnqQquoiLew%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAMV_mc2eEygEWpjmCV4a7dq8YC%2BMFe%3DPN%2B%2BOZtesnqQquoiLew%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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