Is it flower or the leaves? life is short time is running out don't try to know everything utilize what you already know
On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 22:24, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > I do not think so. > > -- > With regards, > J. M. Garg > > On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 10:21 pm surajit koley, < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Sir ji, is there any possibility of *Steudnera colocasioides *? Please >> check the spadix at* >> - http://www.aroidpictures.fr/GENERA/STEUDNERA/steudcolocasioides.html >> <http://www.aroidpictures.fr/GENERA/STEUDNERA/steudcolocasioides.html>* >> >> life is short >> time is running out >> don't try to know everything >> utilize what you already know >> >> >> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 22:09, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, Sir ji, photographic illusions are quite possible. >>> >>> life is short >>> time is running out >>> don't try to know everything >>> utilize what you already know >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 21:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>>> To me relative size of spathe, ovule and leaves appears to be OK. >>>> Actually close up images (making them look appear large) has confused us, >>>> into thinking this to be an Alocasia. >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J. M. Garg >>>> >>>> On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 9:05 pm surajit koley, < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am not acquainted with this genus, Sir ji. >>>>> Yet, I do not think it can be *Remusatia hookeriana* -(1) as per >>>>> Fl.Br.Ind., spathe max 2.5 inch, / 7 cm max.- FoC) (2) spadix max. 11+7+9 >>>>> = >>>>> 27 mm = 1 inch approx (check FoC). >>>>> The spadix in this thread looks much longer, though actual size can >>>>> only be verified by Sawmliana ji. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> life is short >>>>> time is running out >>>>> don't try to know everything >>>>> utilize what you already know >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 16:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it may be some Remusatia >>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/12/09/remusatia/> species as per >>>>>> comparative images herein, mostly *Remusatia hookeriana* Schott >>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/araceae/remusatia/remusatia-hookeriana> >>>>>> as >>>>>> per details and images herein and as per Flora of China keys >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128128>, >>>>>> FoC illustrations- one >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122221&flora_id=2>, >>>>>> two >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122222&flora_id=2>, >>>>>> three >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122223&flora_id=2> >>>>>> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2871961> >>>>>> specimens - one >>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1489692%3AMICH-V-1489692%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg>, >>>>>> two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998711321>, three >>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998395449>, four >>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F616588.jpg> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 at 12:42, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to add one more point - I never came across any such >>>>>>> phrase that "shiny leaf means *Alocasia*." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 20:31, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Sawmliana ji, >>>>>>>> I know I am asking for too much! Please understand that I am no >>>>>>>> expert on *Alocasia* or *Colocasia*, I am here too to learn >>>>>>>> something about plant-world. However, I do know what a flower of *A. >>>>>>>> fornicata* look like. And I believe that identification based on >>>>>>>> leaf morphology can mislead, specially in case of *Alocasia* or >>>>>>>> *Colocasia*. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have doubt if your plant can be *Alocasia fornicata* - flowers >>>>>>>> are not like the ones I see here.- (a) floral chamber and spathe >>>>>>>> appear to >>>>>>>> be narrower and more elongated in your species, (b) spadix is >>>>>>>> different. >>>>>>>> I do not know if the above characters can be regional variation. >>>>>>>> I attach here description of *Alocasia fornicata* from the booh, >>>>>>>> "Botany of Bihar and Orissa". >>>>>>>> Also attached an edited picture for your perusal, along with other >>>>>>>> pictures (one immature flower and the other mature) of *Alocasia >>>>>>>> fornicata flower *that I recorded. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And KEY is there in a private mail for certain spp of *Alocasia*. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 07:16, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please send me the flower to examine physically. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 21:28, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am not convinced about it being Alocasia *fallax* as per GBIF >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329901> specimens or *Alocasia >>>>>>>>>> decipiens* as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329954>. >>>>>>>>>> What I see here is shining leaves with clear tertiary veins and >>>>>>>>>> contrasting colours of both sides of the leave, as can be seen in >>>>>>>>>> GBIF >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&country=TH&country=LK&country=US&country=VN&country=ZZ&taxon_key=5329964> >>>>>>>>>> specimens of Alocasia fornicata at one >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F711058.jpg>, >>>>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3dc41e73e-6e95-4bda-9d8c-a948f6944a0f>, >>>>>>>>>> three >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1415396%2Fformat%2Flarge>, >>>>>>>>>> four >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3c20a6c8e-b68f-4408-9982-5b468ca20148>, >>>>>>>>>> five >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm376252f4a-9298-45c5-8c5a-fe20d8152bc8>, >>>>>>>>>> six >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm35f65b9c9-43fe-448a-b8dd-c3fe4902abe2>. >>>>>>>>>> It also have distribution in the area as per POWO >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:84168-1> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> However, I am not sure. >>>>>>>>>> Pl. confirm or otherwise. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 at 13:25 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:226503] MSJune,2015/06 Araceae >>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Location : Buarpui - W.Bungtlang road >>>>>>>>>> Date : 24/06/2015 >>>>>>>>>> Habit : Herb >>>>>>>>>> Habitat : Wild in the forests >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAMV_mc2eEygEWpjmCV4a7dq8YC%2BMFe%3DPN%2B%2BOZtesnqQquoiLew%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAMV_mc2eEygEWpjmCV4a7dq8YC%2BMFe%3DPN%2B%2BOZtesnqQquoiLew%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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