I do not think so. -- With regards, J. M. Garg
On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 10:21 pm surajit koley, <[email protected]> wrote: > Sir ji, is there any possibility of *Steudnera colocasioides *? Please > check the spadix at* > - http://www.aroidpictures.fr/GENERA/STEUDNERA/steudcolocasioides.html > <http://www.aroidpictures.fr/GENERA/STEUDNERA/steudcolocasioides.html>* > > life is short > time is running out > don't try to know everything > utilize what you already know > > > On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 22:09, surajit koley <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Yes, Sir ji, photographic illusions are quite possible. >> >> life is short >> time is running out >> don't try to know everything >> utilize what you already know >> >> >> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 21:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>> To me relative size of spathe, ovule and leaves appears to be OK. >>> Actually close up images (making them look appear large) has confused us, >>> into thinking this to be an Alocasia. >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J. M. Garg >>> >>> On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 9:05 pm surajit koley, < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I am not acquainted with this genus, Sir ji. >>>> Yet, I do not think it can be *Remusatia hookeriana* -(1) as per >>>> Fl.Br.Ind., spathe max 2.5 inch, / 7 cm max.- FoC) (2) spadix max. 11+7+9 = >>>> 27 mm = 1 inch approx (check FoC). >>>> The spadix in this thread looks much longer, though actual size can >>>> only be verified by Sawmliana ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> life is short >>>> time is running out >>>> don't try to know everything >>>> utilize what you already know >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 16:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think it may be some Remusatia >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/12/09/remusatia/> species as per >>>>> comparative images herein, mostly *Remusatia hookeriana* Schott >>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/araceae/remusatia/remusatia-hookeriana> >>>>> as >>>>> per details and images herein and as per Flora of China keys >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128128>, >>>>> FoC illustrations- one >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122221&flora_id=2>, >>>>> two >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122222&flora_id=2>, >>>>> three >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122223&flora_id=2> >>>>> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2871961> >>>>> specimens - one >>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1489692%3AMICH-V-1489692%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg>, >>>>> two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998711321>, three >>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998395449>, four >>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F616588.jpg> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2021 at 12:42, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I would like to add one more point - I never came across any such >>>>>> phrase that "shiny leaf means *Alocasia*." >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 20:31, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Sawmliana ji, >>>>>>> I know I am asking for too much! Please understand that I am no >>>>>>> expert on *Alocasia* or *Colocasia*, I am here too to learn >>>>>>> something about plant-world. However, I do know what a flower of *A. >>>>>>> fornicata* look like. And I believe that identification based on >>>>>>> leaf morphology can mislead, specially in case of *Alocasia* or >>>>>>> *Colocasia*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have doubt if your plant can be *Alocasia fornicata* - flowers >>>>>>> are not like the ones I see here.- (a) floral chamber and spathe appear >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> be narrower and more elongated in your species, (b) spadix is different. >>>>>>> I do not know if the above characters can be regional variation. >>>>>>> I attach here description of *Alocasia fornicata* from the booh, >>>>>>> "Botany of Bihar and Orissa". >>>>>>> Also attached an edited picture for your perusal, along with other >>>>>>> pictures (one immature flower and the other mature) of *Alocasia >>>>>>> fornicata flower *that I recorded. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And KEY is there in a private mail for certain spp of *Alocasia*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 07:16, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please send me the flower to examine physically. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 21:28, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not convinced about it being Alocasia *fallax* as per GBIF >>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329901> specimens or *Alocasia >>>>>>>>> decipiens* as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329954>. >>>>>>>>> What I see here is shining leaves with clear tertiary veins and >>>>>>>>> contrasting colours of both sides of the leave, as can be seen in >>>>>>>>> GBIF >>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&country=TH&country=LK&country=US&country=VN&country=ZZ&taxon_key=5329964> >>>>>>>>> specimens of Alocasia fornicata at one >>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F711058.jpg>, >>>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3dc41e73e-6e95-4bda-9d8c-a948f6944a0f>, >>>>>>>>> three >>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1415396%2Fformat%2Flarge>, >>>>>>>>> four >>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3c20a6c8e-b68f-4408-9982-5b468ca20148>, >>>>>>>>> five >>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm376252f4a-9298-45c5-8c5a-fe20d8152bc8>, >>>>>>>>> six >>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm35f65b9c9-43fe-448a-b8dd-c3fe4902abe2>. >>>>>>>>> It also have distribution in the area as per POWO >>>>>>>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:84168-1> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> However, I am not sure. >>>>>>>>> Pl. confirm or otherwise. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 at 13:25 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:226503] MSJune,2015/06 Araceae >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Location : Buarpui - W.Bungtlang road >>>>>>>>> Date : 24/06/2015 >>>>>>>>> Habit : Herb >>>>>>>>> Habitat : Wild in the forests >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAMV_mc2eEygEWpjmCV4a7dq8YC%2BMFe%3DPN%2B%2BOZtesnqQquoiLew%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAMV_mc2eEygEWpjmCV4a7dq8YC%2BMFe%3DPN%2B%2BOZtesnqQquoiLew%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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