Good morning Sir ji
Please, do not spend time on *Steudnera*.
I think it will take time to sort out the two posts from Mizoram.
Have a ice day

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don't try to know everything
utilize what you already know


On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 23:07, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ok, I will have a serious lookbwitj more sources again tomorrow.
>
> --
> With regards,
> J. M. Garg
>
> On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 10:29 pm surajit koley, <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Again, I would say that please compare the probabilities with these
>> illustrations -
>> http://plantgenera.org/species.php?id_taxon=9354&genus=Steudnera&id_species=978620&species=&mobile0&uhd=0&size=0&SID=to7pitmrq6bg9nsumkl0iji17a&lay_out=0&group=0&hd=0&query_type=genus&thumbnails_selectable=0&query_broad_or_restricted=broad
>>
>> life is short
>> time is running out
>> don't try to know everything
>> utilize what you already know
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 21:50, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Surajit ji.
>>> Pl. see them in 2nd image, which shows their relative size compared to
>>> the leaves.
>>> --
>>> With regards,
>>> J. M. Garg
>>>
>>> On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 9:25 pm surajit koley, <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Again, Sir, the floral chamber(s) in the 3rd pic seems longer and
>>>> cylindrical than all the references you have linked. However there might be
>>>> some possibility which can not be confirmed without seeing the spadix.
>>>>
>>>> life is short
>>>> time is running out
>>>> don't try to know everything
>>>> utilize what you already know
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 16:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think it may be some Remusatia
>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/12/09/remusatia/> species as per
>>>>> comparative images herein, mostly *Remusatia hookeriana* Schott
>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/araceae/remusatia/remusatia-hookeriana>
>>>>>  as
>>>>> per details and images herein and as per Flora of China keys
>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128128>,
>>>>> FoC illustrations- one
>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122221&flora_id=2>,
>>>>> two
>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122222&flora_id=2>,
>>>>> three
>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122223&flora_id=2>
>>>>> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2871961>
>>>>> specimens - one
>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1489692%3AMICH-V-1489692%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg>,
>>>>> two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998711321>, three
>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998395449>, four
>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F616588.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 20:36, surajit koley <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Dear Sawmliana ji,
>>>>>> I know I am asking for too much! Please understand that I am no
>>>>>> expert on *Alocasia* or *Colocasia*, I am here too to learn
>>>>>> something about plant-world. However, I do know what a flower of *A.
>>>>>> fornicata* look like. And I believe that identification based on
>>>>>> leaf morphology can mislead, specially in case of *Alocasia* or
>>>>>> *Colocasia*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have doubt if your plant can be *Alocasia fornicata* - flowers are
>>>>>> not like the ones I see here.
>>>>>> I do not know if there can be regional variation.
>>>>>> I attach here description of *Alocasia fornicata* from the booh,
>>>>>> "Botany of Bihar and Orissa".
>>>>>> Also attached an edited picture for your perusal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Surajit Koley
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 07:16, surajit koley <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Please send me the flower to examine physically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Surajit Koley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 21:29, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not convinced about it being Alocasia *fallax* as per GBIF
>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329901> specimens or
>>>>>>>> *Alocasia decipiens* as per GBIF
>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329954>.
>>>>>>>> What I see here is shining leaves with clear tertiary veins and
>>>>>>>> contrasting colours of both sides of the leave, as can be seen in
>>>>>>>> GBIF
>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&country=TH&country=LK&country=US&country=VN&country=ZZ&taxon_key=5329964>
>>>>>>>>  specimens
>>>>>>>> of Alocasia fornicata at one
>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F711058.jpg>
>>>>>>>> , two
>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3dc41e73e-6e95-4bda-9d8c-a948f6944a0f>
>>>>>>>> , three
>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1415396%2Fformat%2Flarge>
>>>>>>>> , four
>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3c20a6c8e-b68f-4408-9982-5b468ca20148>
>>>>>>>> , five
>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm376252f4a-9298-45c5-8c5a-fe20d8152bc8>
>>>>>>>> , six
>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm35f65b9c9-43fe-448a-b8dd-c3fe4902abe2>.
>>>>>>>> It also have distribution in the area as per POWO
>>>>>>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:84168-1>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> However, I am not sure.
>>>>>>>> Pl. confirm or otherwise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 1 Sept 2014 at 16:59
>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:199258] Alocasia sp. for ID (Araceae)
>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Location : Sairang, Mizoram
>>>>>>>> Date : 01-09-2014
>>>>>>>> Habit : Herb
>>>>>>>> Habitat :Grows wild in shady place
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> J.M.Garg
>>>>>
>>>>

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