I did Sir and I will recheck thoroughly. I need time, Sir ji, first I intend to delete, one by one , any possibility of other *Colocasia* and *Alocasia* and also *Steudnera*. Then I will get back to *Remusatia*. In fact I was thinking of *Remusatia* too, specially *R. vivipara*, as in KEW site - http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:88433-1.
To tell you the fact - I am stressing more on flower than leaf characters. The long "male (or sterile male included?) zone" is my point of concern. life is short time is running out don't try to know everything utilize what you already know On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 11:32, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Surajit ji. > May I request you to have a relook for *Remusatia hookeriana* Schott > <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/araceae/remusatia/remusatia-hookeriana> > as > per details and images herein and as per Flora of China keys > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128128>, FoC > illustrations- one > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122221&flora_id=2>, two > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122222&flora_id=2>, > three > <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122223&flora_id=2> and > GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2871961> specimens > - one > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1489692%3AMICH-V-1489692%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg> > , two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998711321>, three > <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998395449>, four > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F616588.jpg> > > On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 06:48, surajit koley <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Good morning Sir ji >> Please, do not spend time on *Steudnera*. >> I think it will take time to sort out the two posts from Mizoram. >> Have a ice day >> >> life is short >> time is running out >> don't try to know everything >> utilize what you already know >> >> >> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 23:07, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ok, I will have a serious lookbwitj more sources again tomorrow. >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J. M. Garg >>> >>> On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 10:29 pm surajit koley, < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Again, I would say that please compare the probabilities with these >>>> illustrations - >>>> http://plantgenera.org/species.php?id_taxon=9354&genus=Steudnera&id_species=978620&species=&mobile0&uhd=0&size=0&SID=to7pitmrq6bg9nsumkl0iji17a&lay_out=0&group=0&hd=0&query_type=genus&thumbnails_selectable=0&query_broad_or_restricted=broad >>>> >>>> life is short >>>> time is running out >>>> don't try to know everything >>>> utilize what you already know >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 21:50, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>>>> Pl. see them in 2nd image, which shows their relative size compared to >>>>> the leaves. >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 9:25 pm surajit koley, < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Again, Sir, the floral chamber(s) in the 3rd pic seems longer and >>>>>> cylindrical than all the references you have linked. However there might >>>>>> be >>>>>> some possibility which can not be confirmed without seeing the spadix. >>>>>> >>>>>> life is short >>>>>> time is running out >>>>>> don't try to know everything >>>>>> utilize what you already know >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 16:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it may be some Remusatia >>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/12/09/remusatia/> species as per >>>>>>> comparative images herein, mostly *Remusatia hookeriana* Schott >>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/araceae/remusatia/remusatia-hookeriana> >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> per details and images herein and as per Flora of China keys >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128128>, >>>>>>> FoC illustrations- one >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122221&flora_id=2>, >>>>>>> two >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122222&flora_id=2>, >>>>>>> three >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122223&flora_id=2> >>>>>>> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2871961> >>>>>>> specimens - one >>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1489692%3AMICH-V-1489692%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg>, >>>>>>> two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998711321>, three >>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998395449>, four >>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F616588.jpg> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 20:36, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Sawmliana ji, >>>>>>>> I know I am asking for too much! Please understand that I am no >>>>>>>> expert on *Alocasia* or *Colocasia*, I am here too to learn >>>>>>>> something about plant-world. However, I do know what a flower of *A. >>>>>>>> fornicata* look like. And I believe that identification based on >>>>>>>> leaf morphology can mislead, specially in case of *Alocasia* or >>>>>>>> *Colocasia*. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have doubt if your plant can be *Alocasia fornicata* - flowers >>>>>>>> are not like the ones I see here. >>>>>>>> I do not know if there can be regional variation. >>>>>>>> I attach here description of *Alocasia fornicata* from the booh, >>>>>>>> "Botany of Bihar and Orissa". >>>>>>>> Also attached an edited picture for your perusal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 07:16, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please send me the flower to examine physically. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 21:29, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am not convinced about it being Alocasia *fallax* as per GBIF >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329901> specimens or >>>>>>>>>> *Alocasia decipiens* as per GBIF >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329954>. >>>>>>>>>> What I see here is shining leaves with clear tertiary veins and >>>>>>>>>> contrasting colours of both sides of the leave, as can be seen in >>>>>>>>>> GBIF >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&country=TH&country=LK&country=US&country=VN&country=ZZ&taxon_key=5329964> >>>>>>>>>> specimens >>>>>>>>>> of Alocasia fornicata at one >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F711058.jpg> >>>>>>>>>> , two >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3dc41e73e-6e95-4bda-9d8c-a948f6944a0f> >>>>>>>>>> , three >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1415396%2Fformat%2Flarge> >>>>>>>>>> , four >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3c20a6c8e-b68f-4408-9982-5b468ca20148> >>>>>>>>>> , five >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm376252f4a-9298-45c5-8c5a-fe20d8152bc8> >>>>>>>>>> , six >>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm35f65b9c9-43fe-448a-b8dd-c3fe4902abe2>. >>>>>>>>>> It also have distribution in the area as per POWO >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:84168-1> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> However, I am not sure. >>>>>>>>>> Pl. confirm or otherwise. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 1 Sept 2014 at 16:59 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:199258] Alocasia sp. for ID (Araceae) >>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Location : Sairang, Mizoram >>>>>>>>>> Date : 01-09-2014 >>>>>>>>>> Habit : Herb >>>>>>>>>> Habitat :Grows wild in shady place >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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