Ok. Thanks, Surajit ji On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 12:07, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote:
> I did Sir and I will recheck thoroughly. > I need time, Sir ji, first I intend to delete, one by one , any > possibility of other *Colocasia* and *Alocasia* and also *Steudnera*. > Then I will get back to *Remusatia*. > In fact I was thinking of *Remusatia* too, specially *R. vivipara*, as in > KEW site - > http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:88433-1 > . > > To tell you the fact - I am stressing more on flower than leaf characters. > The long "male (or sterile male included?) zone" is my point of concern. > > life is short > time is running out > don't try to know everything > utilize what you already know > > > On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 11:32, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks, Surajit ji. >> May I request you to have a relook for *Remusatia hookeriana* Schott >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/araceae/remusatia/remusatia-hookeriana> >> as >> per details and images herein and as per Flora of China keys >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128128>, FoC >> illustrations- one >> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122221&flora_id=2>, >> two <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122222&flora_id=2> >> , three >> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122223&flora_id=2> >> and GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2871961> >> specimens >> - one >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1489692%3AMICH-V-1489692%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg> >> , two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998711321>, three >> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998395449>, four >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F616588.jpg> >> >> On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 06:48, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Good morning Sir ji >>> Please, do not spend time on *Steudnera*. >>> I think it will take time to sort out the two posts from Mizoram. >>> Have a ice day >>> >>> life is short >>> time is running out >>> don't try to know everything >>> utilize what you already know >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 23:07, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, I will have a serious lookbwitj more sources again tomorrow. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J. M. Garg >>>> >>>> On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 10:29 pm surajit koley, < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Again, I would say that please compare the probabilities with these >>>>> illustrations - >>>>> http://plantgenera.org/species.php?id_taxon=9354&genus=Steudnera&id_species=978620&species=&mobile0&uhd=0&size=0&SID=to7pitmrq6bg9nsumkl0iji17a&lay_out=0&group=0&hd=0&query_type=genus&thumbnails_selectable=0&query_broad_or_restricted=broad >>>>> >>>>> life is short >>>>> time is running out >>>>> don't try to know everything >>>>> utilize what you already know >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 21:50, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>>>>> Pl. see them in 2nd image, which shows their relative size compared >>>>>> to the leaves. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 19 May, 2021, 9:25 pm surajit koley, < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Again, Sir, the floral chamber(s) in the 3rd pic seems longer and >>>>>>> cylindrical than all the references you have linked. However there >>>>>>> might be >>>>>>> some possibility which can not be confirmed without seeing the spadix. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> life is short >>>>>>> time is running out >>>>>>> don't try to know everything >>>>>>> utilize what you already know >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 16:13, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it may be some Remusatia >>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/12/09/remusatia/> species as per >>>>>>>> comparative images herein, mostly *Remusatia hookeriana* Schott >>>>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/araceae/remusatia/remusatia-hookeriana> >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> per details and images herein and as per Flora of China keys >>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=128128>, >>>>>>>> FoC illustrations- one >>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122221&flora_id=2>, >>>>>>>> two >>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122222&flora_id=2>, >>>>>>>> three >>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=122223&flora_id=2> >>>>>>>> and GBIF >>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=2871961> >>>>>>>> specimens - one >>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fquod.lib.umich.edu%2Fcgi%2Fi%2Fimage%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fherb00ic%3A1489692%3AMICH-V-1489692%2Ffull%2Fres%3A0%2F0%2Fnative.jpg>, >>>>>>>> two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998711321>, three >>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/1998395449>, four >>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F616588.jpg> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 20:36, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Sawmliana ji, >>>>>>>>> I know I am asking for too much! Please understand that I am no >>>>>>>>> expert on *Alocasia* or *Colocasia*, I am here too to learn >>>>>>>>> something about plant-world. However, I do know what a flower of *A. >>>>>>>>> fornicata* look like. And I believe that identification based on >>>>>>>>> leaf morphology can mislead, specially in case of *Alocasia* or >>>>>>>>> *Colocasia*. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have doubt if your plant can be *Alocasia fornicata* - flowers >>>>>>>>> are not like the ones I see here. >>>>>>>>> I do not know if there can be regional variation. >>>>>>>>> I attach here description of *Alocasia fornicata* from the booh, >>>>>>>>> "Botany of Bihar and Orissa". >>>>>>>>> Also attached an edited picture for your perusal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 07:16, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please send me the flower to examine physically. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 21:29, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am not convinced about it being Alocasia *fallax* as per GBIF >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329901> specimens or >>>>>>>>>>> *Alocasia decipiens* as per GBIF >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/species/5329954>. >>>>>>>>>>> What I see here is shining leaves with clear tertiary veins and >>>>>>>>>>> contrasting colours of both sides of the leave, as can be seen in >>>>>>>>>>> GBIF >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?country=IN&country=TH&country=LK&country=US&country=VN&country=ZZ&taxon_key=5329964> >>>>>>>>>>> specimens >>>>>>>>>>> of Alocasia fornicata at one >>>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F711058.jpg> >>>>>>>>>>> , two >>>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3dc41e73e-6e95-4bda-9d8c-a948f6944a0f> >>>>>>>>>>> , three >>>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fmedialib.naturalis.nl%2Ffile%2Fid%2FL.1415396%2Fformat%2Flarge> >>>>>>>>>>> , four >>>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3c20a6c8e-b68f-4408-9982-5b468ca20148> >>>>>>>>>>> , five >>>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm376252f4a-9298-45c5-8c5a-fe20d8152bc8> >>>>>>>>>>> , six >>>>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm35f65b9c9-43fe-448a-b8dd-c3fe4902abe2>. >>>>>>>>>>> It also have distribution in the area as per POWO >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:84168-1> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> However, I am not sure. >>>>>>>>>>> Pl. confirm or otherwise. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>> From: M Sawmliana <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 1 Sept 2014 at 16:59 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:199258] Alocasia sp. for ID (Araceae) >>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Location : Sairang, Mizoram >>>>>>>>>>> Date : 01-09-2014 >>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Herb >>>>>>>>>>> Habitat :Grows wild in shady place >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> M.Sawmliana >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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