I am not sure about SQLite being "always slow", it works rather well
in some instances. That said, I agree with the general gist of this e-
mail about reviewing closely the extensions that are enabled by
default. That said, most people get their PHP from a distributions,
which typically make their own decisions about what to include or not.
The people who compile by hand for whom this would matter, probably
should know what they need or not anyway.
On 1-Aug-08, at 6:11 AM, Antony Dovgal wrote:
Hello all.
I'd like to express my feelings on the "let's-enable-it-by-default"
mood that has emerged lately.
Extensions enabled by default in 5.2:
ctype
date
dom
filter
hash
iconv
json
libxml
pcre
PDO
pdo_sqlite
posix
Reflection
session
SimpleXML
SPL
SQLite
standard
tokenizer
xml
xmlreader
xmlwriter
-----
Total: 22 extensions
Extensions enabled by default in 5.3:
ctype
date
dom
ereg
fileinfo - new, untested.
filter
hash
iconv
json
libxml
pcre
PDO
pdo_sqlite
Phar - new, untested
posix
Reflection
session
SimpleXML
SPL
SQLite
sqlite3 - new, untested
standard
tokenizer
xml
xmlreader
xmlwriter
------
Total: 26 extensions
All of the newly enabled extension are still in development and none
of them are known to be stable enough to be even included into the
core, but for some weird reason they got even enabled by default
(i.e. officially recommended).
So we now have 3 (three) SQLite extensions, all of them too slow to
be used in real life (because SQLite itself is slow), two PDO
extensions (unmaintained, known to cause crashes), json (author's
gone for a burton; stability and necessity is arguable), fileinfo
extension with no tests and poorly written bundled lib known to
cause crashes
and we in fact *officially recommend them* by enabling them all by
default.
So why should we even bother disabling something?
Let's enable everything by default, most of the users use --disable-
all anyways!
I can agree that disabling something that was already enabled in 5.2
might create some confusion, but why enable scarcely created
extensions by default, especially if they are known to cause lost of
obscure problems in the past (like Phar)?
I mean completely no offense to the developers of these extensions,
but I would like them (extensions) to be thoroughly tested and
mature first, after that we can discuss the question of adding them
to the core.
And no, they must not be enabled by default unless they bring some
extra-useful functionality that the engine lacks (like SPL and
reflection do).
--
Wbr, Antony Dovgal
--
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Ilia Alshanetsky
--
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php