On 30 October 2010 19:18, Chad Emrys <ad...@codeangel.org> wrote: > On 10/30/2010 11:58 AM, Daniel P. Brown wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:47, Chad Emrys<ad...@codeangel.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> It's not that I'm that sure of myself, it's that I believe that my >>> opinion >>> has merit, and I keep seeing the exact same argument over and over again >>> that I believe is not a very good argument (They can just google it >>> thing). >>> Some other people have provided other arguments as well and those are >>> more >>> valued. (Though I don't think they are strong enough reasons yet NOT to >>> do >>> it). >>> >> >> It does have merit --- to you, and perhaps a few others. >> Hopefully without sounding like I'm ridiculing you (it's not my >> intent), have you seriously considered this at all, and are you >> realizing that it's just not going to happen at this time? I mean, if >> you submitted a request or implementation proposal for an INI-based >> option to switch between token strings and expanded help messages, >> that would likely receive more serious attention than the dismissive >> responses and formed opinions of your own insight as based upon this >> discussion. >> >> >>> >>> Forking won't fix this particular problem. >>> >> >> Well, if your statement about how no one here who disagrees with >> you does "enough support" (which is, quite frankly, an asinine >> assessment), then an equal rebuttal will be that you do not know >> enough about the inner workings of the software you claim to support, >> nor the culture of the group who maintains it. >> >> You're taking a minor annoyance and trying to convince the masses >> - and indeed the "powers that be" - that it is tantamount to Y2K38. >> Again, I'm really not trying to insult you or your original opinion >> here, Chad, but the continued arguments are almost coming off as silly >> now. >> >> > > If you haven't noticed, I am a bit stubborn, yes it's a problem. When I > submitted this proposal, I have to at least try to plant a bug in their > brain that perhaps, they are being to hasty on dismissing this argument. > True, I do not know a lot about this particular culture that maintains PHP. > I just know the bigger culture of those who use PHP, and some of them are > quite annoyed by the dismissive nature of the maintainers who are quite at > odds to what the majority of the community want or needs. And I am sort of > glad to annoy those who are overly dismissive, and hopefully ploy the one's > who are on the fence. > > No one said I was good at politics. But the fact one has to play the > politics game here to get anything worth while doesn't really phase me. > > Now I am starting to find this argument straying from the point. I don't > believe attacking me personally or me attacking the nature of this mailing > list really has to do with the subject line. >
Why not throw your weight behind http://wiki.php.net/rfc/lemon ? Seems to me that might get a lot more traction. Regards Peter -- <hype> WWW: plphp.dk / plind.dk LinkedIn: plind BeWelcome/Couchsurfing: Fake51 Twitter: kafe15 </hype> -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
