On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:23 PM, James Butler < james.but...@edigitalresearch.com> wrote:
> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Schrijver [mailto:alexander.schrij...@gmail.com] > Sent: 01 November 2010 12:19 > To: Stefan Marr > Cc: Dennis Haarbrink; Stan Vass; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE: [SPAM] Re: [PHP-DEV] rename > T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON > > On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 12:59:54PM +0100, Stefan Marr wrote: > > > > On 01 Nov 2010, at 12:06, Alexander Schrijver wrote: > > > Its a minor change and an annoyance to a lot of people. Yes, by not > changing > > > this you'r annoying thousands of people. > > Instead of going for this cosmetic nonsense you should help those people > on the lemon branch. > > I am insulted every time I have to read a parser token name in an error > message, instead of a sensible error message. > > The cost of understanding T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM as part of the current > mumbo-jumbo is completely insignificant compared to the cost of actually > understanding the error message just indicating what the parser would have > expected. > > > > Changing to lemon is the only way to actually achieve something in the > long run... > > Right, and be forced to introduce some bullshit hebrew when its done. No, > thank you. > > Err, the entire point is that it won't matter what the underlying token is. > The error as seen can be anything you want it to be, or at least you can > have a fight about what the new message looks like and i'm sure there won't > really be a compelling reason for it to be in hebrew (unless localized). > Please grow up... > > We don't know that when will the lemon switch be merged With that merged, what will be used for the double colon error? If we keep the constant as is, but show some the correct english error message, then this can be a solution. But with that, the whole educational and easter egg thingy will be gone IMO, so if we chose that path, we could rename the T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM right now. If we keep the hebrew error message(so that will be shown in the logs, etc.) after the lemon switch, then I can't see why should Alexander work on that issue, when it's not going to solve the problem? Tyrael
