I have a new problem. Suddenly, I cannot load a test program from Android Studio into the processor. I can load the Blink program with ioioDude and it works OK. I can load the Android Studio test program into other IOIO boards and it works OK. The test program just blinks the led. Any ideas?
On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 3:41:28 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: > > Device and host are standard USB terminology. Loosely speaking, the host > is the one providing power and the one requiring to have intimate knowledge > of the device's interface. > In the case of the IOIO/Android, either way works (i.e. the IOIO can act > either as a host or device). In your case, you're probably more interested > in the IOIO being host scenario, which is the case in which that IOIO > charges the Android. > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I got the Android to detect the presence of the ioio board. By measuring >> the Vbus rail current, it looks like the Android that I am using (an older >> HTC) takes about 450 ma. When you say device, what are you referring to? >> When you say host, what are you referring to...assuming that I have the >> ioio board connected to an Android. >> >> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 3:50:02 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>> >>> The way USB works is that the device detects the presence of a host by >>> sensing the VBUS rail. If it is about 5V, a host is present and the USB >>> specifies what is the minimum the host must provide in order to be detected >>> correctly. Under this specified voltage, the device may or may not detect >>> the presence of a host. >>> Now, what we're doing on the IOIO is taking a 5V signal and passing it >>> through (effectively) a resistor to the VBUS rail. This means that the >>> voltage on VBUS will drop linearly in the amount of current drawn (5V - >>> I*R). So the more you try to limit the current by increasing the >>> resistance, you'd also be lowering the VBUS voltage until eventually >>> causing the Android to stop detecting the presence of a host. >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't understand. Which voltage are you talking? The ioio is not >>>> measuring its 5 volt supply voltage. I would not expect the ioio 5 volt >>>> supply to drop a measurable amount in any case, regardless of load. The >>>> variable resistor is setting a charge current *to* the Android, >>>> therefore I would expect the Android supply voltage to raise...not drop. >>>> Is the Android monitoring it's own supply voltage? >>>> >>>> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 11:25:33 AM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How much the voltage drops as result of different charge current >>>>> limiting and how low the voltage can drop before the Android decides it >>>>> is >>>>> not connected is totally device dependent. This is in general a total >>>>> hack >>>>> (which does work great in certain cases). The formal USB specification >>>>> doesn't actually allow doing that. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I tried another board and got it working OK. At least now, it >>>>>> recognizes the App is present. >>>>>> The next problem is to make the Android detect the board. How much >>>>>> charging current does the Android need in order to detect that it is >>>>>> connected to something? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 12:58:24 PM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is supposed to be an exact OTG copy. Something is keeping it in >>>>>>> the boot mode even after reset. Any ideas? Can hardware keep it in >>>>>>> boot >>>>>>> mode? BOOT is not being held low. I will probe HOST. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 11:01:57 AM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In what ways is your hardware different than the standard IOIO-OTG? >>>>>>>> Is it possible that for some reason it thinks it is in host mode? Can >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> probe the HOST signal? >>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2015 10:41 AM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It always says "Bootloader detected" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMinils /dev/tty.usb* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /dev/tty.usbmodem1a121371 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 versions >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 --force write /Users/VicMini/Downloads/App-I >>>>>>>>> OIO0500.ioioapp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Writing image... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [########################################] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Writing fingerprint... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Done. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 versions >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 --reset versions >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 10:33:11 AM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ls /dev/tty.usb* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 versions >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 --reset write /Users/VicMini/Downloads/App-I >>>>>>>>>> OIO0500.ioioapp >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Comparing fingerprints... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fingerprint match - skipping write. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 versions >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It hangs up at this point and I have to exit. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ^CVicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 8:48:49 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is only the bootloader. I would like to see what happens >>>>>>>>>>> after a reset. That is, to get the "IOIO Application Detected" >>>>>>>>>>> message. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ls /dev/tty.usb* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/tty.usbmodem1a121311 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 versions >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 fingerprint >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> d895d272a4b98529693fcdc4f69eeb3c >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 --reset versions >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 7:48:34 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 *--reset *versions >>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 versions >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OR: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 fingerprint >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121321 versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I get out of the bootloader mode without changing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> port so I can check to see what it says is loaded? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 4:16:09 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What bootloader did you put on it? Was it able to correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk to IOIODude? What app did you install? 5 blinks doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything... Possibly corrupt firmware. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 4:13 PM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually it blinks 5 times...only when the usb cable is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected to a phone. Any idea what that means? The boot pin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> held low. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 2:24:55 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That means that you're in bootloader mode. This will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen when you power on with the boot pin held low. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 1:22 PM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I power on, the LED blinks 3 times. Is that normal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation? I think that I have IOIO0500 installed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 11:41:06 AM UTC-7, Ytai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The HOST signal is active high. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you say assert, do you mean assert high or assert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:36:24 PM UTC-7, Ytai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IOIO decides whether it should be host or device >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on whether the USBID pin is pulled low (host) or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left floating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (device). On the standard IOIO board this pin would get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pulled low by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either plugging in a USB micro A connector to the A/B >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socket or by forcing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it low using the on-board switch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the IOIO application firmware detects that USBID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is pulled low, it will assert the HOST signal, which will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause 5V to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplied on the VBUS rail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got the boot loader flashed and am able to run the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blink app...but having trouble with the Android charging >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circuit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a detailed description of the Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging circuit including the operation of Q1, Q2 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the VBUS and HOST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pins of the PIC? My new circuit implementation does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging the Android properly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:26:30 PM UTC-7, Vic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wintriss wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks…think I got it running with the Pickit3…I’ll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let you know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Ytai Ben-Tsvi < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's not much to it. Get a PIC programmer, or use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a second IOIO as such. Flash the bootloader image that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the downloads page and finally use IOIODude as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual to flash the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application firmware. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's an example of how to do the second IOIO way: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKAPP63QtU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just got my new VicsWagon boards back with PIC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soldered on the robot board with all ioio circuitry on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the board, too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are the best instructions for flashing a boot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader and app firmware? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are 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