Of course...I guess what I was trying to say is that my Android test 
program works fine with an ioio board on an earlier version of the 
VicsWagon.  All of a sudden the Android has stopped talking to the ioio 
circuitry on the VicsWagon.

On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 10:00:19 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote:
>
> You don't download code from Android Studio to the PIC.
> You can either:
>
>    - Download code from MPLABX to the PIC (firmware)
>    OR:
>    - Download code from Android Studio to Android (software)
>
> I don't understand what you're saying really.
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> The PIC.  I have laid the ioio circuit down on the new VicsWagon board.  
>> Everything was working fine.  I even was getting ultrasonic readings from 
>> the sensors on the VicsWagon and then all of  a sudden I couldn't load from 
>> Android Studio any more.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 8:22:30 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote:
>>>
>>> What do you mean when you say "cannot load a test program from Android 
>>> Studio into the processor"?
>>> Which processor?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I run versions with IOIOdude when not in the bootloader mode, I 
>>>> get:
>>>>
>>>> VicMacMini-2:IOIODude VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121351 
>>>> versions
>>>>
>>>> IOIO Application detected.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020
>>>>
>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401
>>>>
>>>> Application version: IOIO0500
>>>>
>>>> VicMacMini-2:IOIODude VicMini$ 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 7:12:57 PM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a new problem.  Suddenly, I cannot load a test program from 
>>>>> Android Studio into the processor.  I can load the Blink program with 
>>>>> ioioDude and it works OK.  I can load the Android Studio test program 
>>>>> into 
>>>>> other IOIO boards and it works OK.  The test program just blinks the led. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 3:41:28 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Device and host are standard USB terminology. Loosely speaking, the 
>>>>>> host is the one providing power and the one requiring to have intimate 
>>>>>> knowledge of the device's interface.
>>>>>> In the case of the IOIO/Android, either way works (i.e. the IOIO can 
>>>>>> act either as a host or device). In your case, you're probably more 
>>>>>> interested in the IOIO being host scenario, which is the case in which 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> IOIO charges the Android.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got the Android to detect the presence of the ioio board.  By 
>>>>>>> measuring the Vbus rail current, it looks like the Android that I am 
>>>>>>> using 
>>>>>>> (an older HTC) takes about 450 ma.  When you say device, what are you 
>>>>>>> referring to?  When you say host, what are you referring to...assuming 
>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>> I have the ioio board connected to an Android.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 3:50:02 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The way USB works is that the device detects the presence of a host 
>>>>>>>> by sensing the VBUS rail. If it is about 5V, a host is present and the 
>>>>>>>> USB 
>>>>>>>> specifies what is the minimum the host must provide in order to be 
>>>>>>>> detected 
>>>>>>>> correctly. Under this specified voltage, the device may or may not 
>>>>>>>> detect 
>>>>>>>> the presence of a host.
>>>>>>>> Now, what we're doing on the IOIO is taking a 5V signal and passing 
>>>>>>>> it through (effectively) a resistor to the VBUS rail. This means that 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> voltage on VBUS will drop linearly in the amount of current drawn (5V 
>>>>>>>> - 
>>>>>>>> I*R). So the more you try to limit the current by increasing the 
>>>>>>>> resistance, you'd also be lowering the VBUS voltage until eventually 
>>>>>>>> causing the Android to stop detecting the presence of a host.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't understand.  Which voltage are you talking?  The ioio is 
>>>>>>>>> not measuring its 5 volt supply voltage. I would not expect the ioio 
>>>>>>>>> 5 volt 
>>>>>>>>> supply to drop a measurable amount in any case, regardless of load. 
>>>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>>>> variable resistor is setting a charge current *to* the Android, 
>>>>>>>>> therefore I would expect the Android supply voltage to raise...not 
>>>>>>>>> drop.  
>>>>>>>>> Is the Android monitoring it's own supply voltage?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 11:25:33 AM UTC-7, Ytai wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How much the voltage drops as result of different charge current 
>>>>>>>>>> limiting and how low the voltage can drop before the Android decides 
>>>>>>>>>> it is 
>>>>>>>>>> not connected is totally device dependent. This is in general a 
>>>>>>>>>> total hack 
>>>>>>>>>> (which does work great in certain cases). The formal USB 
>>>>>>>>>> specification 
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't actually allow doing that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I tried another board and got it working OK.  At least now, it 
>>>>>>>>>>> recognizes the App is present.
>>>>>>>>>>> The next problem is to make the Android detect the board.  How 
>>>>>>>>>>> much charging current does the Android need in order to detect that 
>>>>>>>>>>> it is 
>>>>>>>>>>> connected to something?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 12:58:24 PM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is supposed to be an exact OTG copy.  Something is keeping 
>>>>>>>>>>>> it in the boot mode even after reset.  Any ideas?  Can hardware 
>>>>>>>>>>>> keep it in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot mode?  BOOT is not being held low.  I will probe HOST.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 11:01:57 AM UTC-7, Ytai wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In what ways is your hardware different than the standard 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO-OTG? Is it possible that for some reason it thinks it is in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> host mode? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you probe the HOST signal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2015 10:41 AM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It always says "Bootloader detected"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMinils /dev/tty.usb*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/tty.usbmodem1a121371
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 --force write /Users/VicMini/Downloads/App-I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OIO0500.ioioapp 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Writing image...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [########################################]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Writing fingerprint...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 --reset versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 10:33:11 AM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ls /dev/tty.usb*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 --reset write /Users/VicMini/Downloads/App-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO0500.ioioapp 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comparing fingerprints...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fingerprint match - skipping write.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It hangs up at this point and I have to exit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ^CVicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 8:48:49 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is only the bootloader. I would like to see what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens after a reset. That is, to get the "IOIO Application 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Detected" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Vic Wintriss <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ls /dev/tty.usb*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/tty.usbmodem1a121311
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 fingerprint
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d895d272a4b98529693fcdc4f69eeb3c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 --reset versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 7:48:34 PM UTC-7, Ytai 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 *--reset *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OR:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 fingerprint
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Vic Wintriss <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 versions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I get out of the bootloader mode without changing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the port so I can check to see what it says is loaded?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 4:16:09 PM UTC-7, Ytai 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What bootloader did you put on it? Was it able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly talk to IOIODude? What app did you install? 5 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blinks doesn't mean 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything... Possibly corrupt firmware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 4:13 PM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually it blinks 5 times...only when the usb cable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is connected to a phone.  Any idea what that means?  The 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot pin is not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being held low.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 2:24:55 PM UTC-7, Ytai 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That means that you're in bootloader mode. This will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen when you power on with the boot pin held low.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 1:22 PM, "Vic Wintriss" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I power on, the LED blinks 3 times.  Is that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal operation?  I think that I have IOIO0500 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 11:41:06 AM UTC-7, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ytai wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The HOST signal is active high.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Vic Wintriss <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you say assert, do you mean assert high or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assert low?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:36:24 PM UTC-7, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ytai wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IOIO decides whether it should be host or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device based on whether the USBID pin is pulled low 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (host) or left floating 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (device). On the standard IOIO board this pin would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get pulled low by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either plugging in a USB micro A connector to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A/B socket or by forcing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it low using the on-board switch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the IOIO application firmware detects that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USBID is pulled low, it will assert the HOST signal, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which will cause 5V to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be supplied on the VBUS rail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Vic Wintriss <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got the boot loader flashed and am able to run 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the blink app...but having trouble with the Android 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging circuit.   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a detailed description of the Android 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging circuit including the operation of Q1, Q2 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the VBUS and HOST 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pins of the PIC?  My new circuit implementation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not seem to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging the Android properly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:26:30 PM UTC-7, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vic Wintriss wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks…think I got it running with the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pickit3…I’ll let you know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Ytai Ben-Tsvi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's not much to it. Get a PIC programmer, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or use a second IOIO as such. Flash the bootloader 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image that you can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download from the downloads page and finally use 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIODude as usual to flash 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the application firmware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's an example of how to do the second IOIO 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKAPP63QtU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Vic Wintriss <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just got my new VicsWagon boards back with PIC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soldered on the robot board with all ioio 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> circuitry on the board, too.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are the best instructions for flashing a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot loader and app firmware?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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