When I run versions with IOIOdude when not in the bootloader mode, I get: VicMacMini-2:IOIODude VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121351 versions
IOIO Application detected. Hardware version: SPRK0020 Bootloader version: IOIO0401 Application version: IOIO0500 VicMacMini-2:IOIODude VicMini$ On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 7:12:57 PM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss wrote: > > I have a new problem. Suddenly, I cannot load a test program from Android > Studio into the processor. I can load the Blink program with ioioDude and > it works OK. I can load the Android Studio test program into other IOIO > boards and it works OK. The test program just blinks the led. Any ideas? > > On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 3:41:28 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >> >> Device and host are standard USB terminology. Loosely speaking, the host >> is the one providing power and the one requiring to have intimate knowledge >> of the device's interface. >> In the case of the IOIO/Android, either way works (i.e. the IOIO can act >> either as a host or device). In your case, you're probably more interested >> in the IOIO being host scenario, which is the case in which that IOIO >> charges the Android. >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I got the Android to detect the presence of the ioio board. By >>> measuring the Vbus rail current, it looks like the Android that I am using >>> (an older HTC) takes about 450 ma. When you say device, what are you >>> referring to? When you say host, what are you referring to...assuming that >>> I have the ioio board connected to an Android. >>> >>> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 3:50:02 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>> >>>> The way USB works is that the device detects the presence of a host by >>>> sensing the VBUS rail. If it is about 5V, a host is present and the USB >>>> specifies what is the minimum the host must provide in order to be >>>> detected >>>> correctly. Under this specified voltage, the device may or may not detect >>>> the presence of a host. >>>> Now, what we're doing on the IOIO is taking a 5V signal and passing it >>>> through (effectively) a resistor to the VBUS rail. This means that the >>>> voltage on VBUS will drop linearly in the amount of current drawn (5V - >>>> I*R). So the more you try to limit the current by increasing the >>>> resistance, you'd also be lowering the VBUS voltage until eventually >>>> causing the Android to stop detecting the presence of a host. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't understand. Which voltage are you talking? The ioio is not >>>>> measuring its 5 volt supply voltage. I would not expect the ioio 5 volt >>>>> supply to drop a measurable amount in any case, regardless of load. The >>>>> variable resistor is setting a charge current *to* the Android, >>>>> therefore I would expect the Android supply voltage to raise...not drop. >>>>> Is the Android monitoring it's own supply voltage? >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 11:25:33 AM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How much the voltage drops as result of different charge current >>>>>> limiting and how low the voltage can drop before the Android decides it >>>>>> is >>>>>> not connected is totally device dependent. This is in general a total >>>>>> hack >>>>>> (which does work great in certain cases). The formal USB specification >>>>>> doesn't actually allow doing that. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried another board and got it working OK. At least now, it >>>>>>> recognizes the App is present. >>>>>>> The next problem is to make the Android detect the board. How much >>>>>>> charging current does the Android need in order to detect that it is >>>>>>> connected to something? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 12:58:24 PM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is supposed to be an exact OTG copy. Something is keeping it in >>>>>>>> the boot mode even after reset. Any ideas? Can hardware keep it in >>>>>>>> boot >>>>>>>> mode? BOOT is not being held low. I will probe HOST. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 11:01:57 AM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In what ways is your hardware different than the standard >>>>>>>>> IOIO-OTG? Is it possible that for some reason it thinks it is in host >>>>>>>>> mode? >>>>>>>>> Can you probe the HOST signal? >>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2015 10:41 AM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It always says "Bootloader detected" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMinils /dev/tty.usb* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /dev/tty.usbmodem1a121371 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 versions >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 --force write /Users/VicMini/Downloads/App-I >>>>>>>>>> OIO0500.ioioapp >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Writing image... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [########################################] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Writing fingerprint... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Done. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 versions >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 --reset versions >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 10:33:11 AM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ls /dev/tty.usb* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 versions >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 --reset write /Users/VicMini/Downloads/App-I >>>>>>>>>>> OIO0500.ioioapp >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Comparing fingerprints... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fingerprint match - skipping write. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 versions >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It hangs up at this point and I have to exit. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ^CVicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 8:48:49 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is only the bootloader. I would like to see what happens >>>>>>>>>>>> after a reset. That is, to get the "IOIO Application Detected" >>>>>>>>>>>> message. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ls /dev/tty.usb* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/tty.usbmodem1a121311 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 versions >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 fingerprint >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> d895d272a4b98529693fcdc4f69eeb3c >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 --reset versions >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 7:48:34 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 *--reset * >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OR: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 fingerprint >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121321 versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I get out of the bootloader mode without changing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> port so I can check to see what it says is loaded? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 4:16:09 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What bootloader did you put on it? Was it able to correctly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk to IOIODude? What app did you install? 5 blinks doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything... Possibly corrupt firmware. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 4:13 PM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually it blinks 5 times...only when the usb cable is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected to a phone. Any idea what that means? The boot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pin is not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> held low. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 2:24:55 PM UTC-7, Ytai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That means that you're in bootloader mode. This will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen when you power on with the boot pin held low. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 1:22 PM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I power on, the LED blinks 3 times. Is that normal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation? I think that I have IOIO0500 installed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 11:41:06 AM UTC-7, Ytai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The HOST signal is active high. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you say assert, do you mean assert high or assert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:36:24 PM UTC-7, Ytai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IOIO decides whether it should be host or device >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on whether the USBID pin is pulled low (host) or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left floating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (device). On the standard IOIO board this pin would get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pulled low by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either plugging in a USB micro A connector to the A/B >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socket or by forcing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it low using the on-board switch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the IOIO application firmware detects that USBID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is pulled low, it will assert the HOST signal, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will cause 5V to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplied on the VBUS rail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got the boot loader flashed and am able to run the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blink app...but having trouble with the Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging circuit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a detailed description of the Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging circuit including the operation of Q1, Q2 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the VBUS and HOST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pins of the PIC? My new circuit implementation does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not seem to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging the Android properly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:26:30 PM UTC-7, Vic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wintriss wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks…think I got it running with the Pickit3…I’ll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let you know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Ytai Ben-Tsvi < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's not much to it. Get a PIC programmer, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use a second IOIO as such. Flash the bootloader image >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you can download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the downloads page and finally use IOIODude as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual to flash the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application firmware. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's an example of how to do the second IOIO way: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKAPP63QtU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just got my new VicsWagon boards back with PIC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soldered on the robot board with all ioio circuitry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the board, too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are the best instructions for flashing a boot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader and app firmware? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message 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