What do you mean when you say "cannot load a test program from Android Studio into the processor"? Which processor?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote: > When I run versions with IOIOdude when not in the bootloader mode, I get: > > VicMacMini-2:IOIODude VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121351 > versions > > IOIO Application detected. > > > Hardware version: SPRK0020 > > Bootloader version: IOIO0401 > > Application version: IOIO0500 > > VicMacMini-2:IOIODude VicMini$ > > On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 7:12:57 PM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss wrote: >> >> I have a new problem. Suddenly, I cannot load a test program from >> Android Studio into the processor. I can load the Blink program with >> ioioDude and it works OK. I can load the Android Studio test program into >> other IOIO boards and it works OK. The test program just blinks the led. >> Any ideas? >> >> On Monday, April 6, 2015 at 3:41:28 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>> >>> Device and host are standard USB terminology. Loosely speaking, the host >>> is the one providing power and the one requiring to have intimate knowledge >>> of the device's interface. >>> In the case of the IOIO/Android, either way works (i.e. the IOIO can act >>> either as a host or device). In your case, you're probably more interested >>> in the IOIO being host scenario, which is the case in which that IOIO >>> charges the Android. >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I got the Android to detect the presence of the ioio board. By >>>> measuring the Vbus rail current, it looks like the Android that I am using >>>> (an older HTC) takes about 450 ma. When you say device, what are you >>>> referring to? When you say host, what are you referring to...assuming that >>>> I have the ioio board connected to an Android. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 3:50:02 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The way USB works is that the device detects the presence of a host by >>>>> sensing the VBUS rail. If it is about 5V, a host is present and the USB >>>>> specifies what is the minimum the host must provide in order to be >>>>> detected >>>>> correctly. Under this specified voltage, the device may or may not detect >>>>> the presence of a host. >>>>> Now, what we're doing on the IOIO is taking a 5V signal and passing it >>>>> through (effectively) a resistor to the VBUS rail. This means that the >>>>> voltage on VBUS will drop linearly in the amount of current drawn (5V - >>>>> I*R). So the more you try to limit the current by increasing the >>>>> resistance, you'd also be lowering the VBUS voltage until eventually >>>>> causing the Android to stop detecting the presence of a host. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't understand. Which voltage are you talking? The ioio is not >>>>>> measuring its 5 volt supply voltage. I would not expect the ioio 5 volt >>>>>> supply to drop a measurable amount in any case, regardless of load. The >>>>>> variable resistor is setting a charge current *to* the Android, >>>>>> therefore I would expect the Android supply voltage to raise...not drop. >>>>>> Is the Android monitoring it's own supply voltage? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 11:25:33 AM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How much the voltage drops as result of different charge current >>>>>>> limiting and how low the voltage can drop before the Android decides it >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> not connected is totally device dependent. This is in general a total >>>>>>> hack >>>>>>> (which does work great in certain cases). The formal USB specification >>>>>>> doesn't actually allow doing that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried another board and got it working OK. At least now, it >>>>>>>> recognizes the App is present. >>>>>>>> The next problem is to make the Android detect the board. How much >>>>>>>> charging current does the Android need in order to detect that it is >>>>>>>> connected to something? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 12:58:24 PM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is supposed to be an exact OTG copy. Something is keeping it >>>>>>>>> in the boot mode even after reset. Any ideas? Can hardware keep it >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> boot mode? BOOT is not being held low. I will probe HOST. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 11:01:57 AM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In what ways is your hardware different than the standard >>>>>>>>>> IOIO-OTG? Is it possible that for some reason it thinks it is in >>>>>>>>>> host mode? >>>>>>>>>> Can you probe the HOST signal? >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2015 10:41 AM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It always says "Bootloader detected" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMinils /dev/tty.usb* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> /dev/tty.usbmodem1a121371 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 versions >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 --force write /Users/VicMini/Downloads/App-I >>>>>>>>>>> OIO0500.ioioapp >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Writing image... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [########################################] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Writing fingerprint... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Done. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 versions >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121371 --reset versions >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 10:33:11 AM UTC-7, Vic Wintriss >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ls /dev/tty.usb* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 versions >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 --reset write /Users/VicMini/Downloads/App-I >>>>>>>>>>>> OIO0500.ioioapp >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Comparing fingerprints... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Fingerprint match - skipping write. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121361 versions >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It hangs up at this point and I have to exit. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ^CVicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 8:48:49 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is only the bootloader. I would like to see what happens >>>>>>>>>>>>> after a reset. That is, to get the "IOIO Application Detected" >>>>>>>>>>>>> message. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Vic Wintriss <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ls /dev/tty.usb* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/tty.usbmodem1a121311 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 fingerprint >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> d895d272a4b98529693fcdc4f69eeb3c >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121311 --reset versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 7:48:34 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 *--reset * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OR: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty.usbmodem1a121321 fingerprint >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VicMacMini-2:Downloads VicMini$ ./ioiodude --port=/dev/tty. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usbmodem1a121321 versions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOIO Bootloader detected. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardware version: SPRK0020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bootloader version: IOIO0401 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform version: IOIO0030 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I get out of the bootloader mode without changing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the port so I can check to see what it says is loaded? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 4:16:09 PM UTC-7, Ytai wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What bootloader did you put on it? Was it able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly talk to IOIODude? What app did you install? 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blinks doesn't mean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything... Possibly corrupt firmware. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 4:13 PM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually it blinks 5 times...only when the usb cable is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected to a phone. Any idea what that means? The boot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pin is not being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> held low. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 2:24:55 PM UTC-7, Ytai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That means that you're in bootloader mode. This will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen when you power on with the boot pin held low. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 1:22 PM, "Vic Wintriss" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I power on, the LED blinks 3 times. Is that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> normal operation? I think that I have IOIO0500 installed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 11:41:06 AM UTC-7, Ytai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The HOST signal is active high. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you say assert, do you mean assert high or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assert low? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:36:24 PM UTC-7, Ytai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The IOIO decides whether it should be host or device >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on whether the USBID pin is pulled low (host) or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left floating >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (device). On the standard IOIO board this pin would get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pulled low by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either plugging in a USB micro A connector to the A/B >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> socket or by forcing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it low using the on-board switch. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the IOIO application firmware detects that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USBID is pulled low, it will assert the HOST signal, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which will cause 5V to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be supplied on the VBUS rail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got the boot loader flashed and am able to run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the blink app...but having trouble with the Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging circuit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a detailed description of the Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging circuit including the operation of Q1, Q2 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the VBUS and HOST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pins of the PIC? My new circuit implementation does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not seem to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charging the Android properly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:26:30 PM UTC-7, Vic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wintriss wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks…think I got it running with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pickit3…I’ll let you know. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Ytai Ben-Tsvi < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's not much to it. Get a PIC programmer, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use a second IOIO as such. Flash the bootloader image >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you can download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the downloads page and finally use IOIODude as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual to flash the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application firmware. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's an example of how to do the second IOIO way: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUKAPP63QtU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Vic Wintriss < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just got my new VicsWagon boards back with PIC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soldered on the robot board with all ioio circuitry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the board, too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are the best instructions for flashing a boot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loader and app firmware? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received 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