Mr.Nadeem Syed,
AoA,
All my statement are correct. Ch.Shah Muhmmad DG Finance PTCL told that if
we not give @ US$.6000/- to Software houses then we can give to ISP for ten
thousand. But you know what game was played at your office and you helped me
. Let the people know facts.
Bhutta
----- Original Message -----
From: "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>
> Bhutta Sb.,
>
> It is shocking to read your accusations (point 1 & 2)
>
> Do not misrepresent. Your statement that PTCL was ready to bring down the
> rates to $ 10,000/- is not correct as you are presenting. This was an
> informal statement by one of PTCL official that the rates can be brought
to
> $ 10 K for ISPs if the minister takes back his rates announced for
Software.
> Do you think that the minister would have taken back his decision. PTCL
> tried to use you against the minister as well as Computer Society of
> Pakistan and you played in their hands doubting even your own friends. The
> participants in the meeting were are learned and could judge the situation
> better.
>
> You are making a serious accusation, challenging the integrity, showing
the
> mistrust on the participants of the meeting. Remember unless you have
> learned colleagues from ISPAK, you alone are not able to present the cases
> in a professional manner. All the successes were not because of you but
> because of collective effort.
>
> I could never think that you will come to this level. I had lot of respect
> for you but you are losing it.
>
> Regards
>
> Ahmad Nadeem Syed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 6:38 AM
> Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
>
>
> > 1. Every body knows who are playing politics. Who created rift on
> the
> > issue of price of b/w 6000 and 15000. in the meeting at Super.net
> Islamabad.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2.. A group played the role to forced ISPAK to accept US$.15000/-
while
> > PTCL was willing to sell at US$.10,000/- to ISPs in the open meeting.
> > US$.5000/- per 2MB per month will be paid extra to PTCL by ISPs and also
> > loose customers who will get @ US$.6000/- due to some members who forced
> us
> > to accept this tariff to save some one in ministry. Rift started from
that
> > day. Who is responsible for this huge loos to ISPs.?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3.. There is no restriction to be member of ISPAK if some one fulfils
> the
> > conditions agreed from first day of formation of ISPAK.
> >
> >
> > 4.. Every body know there is an " ISPAK", a representative body of
> > ISPs/DNOPs.
> >
> >
> > 5.. There are no obstacles to be member of ISPAK.
> >
> >
> > 6.. We are inviting continually to all ISP/DNOPs to join ISPAK. The
> > registration form is available on WEB of ISPAK.
> >
> >
> > 7.. What was the purpose of un-official meetings?
> > 8.. Who created the term of North and South while we all were jointly
> and
> > smoothly working?
> >
> >
> > 9.. Who formed parallel body of ISPAK who announced that he is
president
> > for next term without approval of General House?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 10.. An understanding was agreed with me on 17th May, in Islamabad at
> > World Telecom Day, for election. Who betrayed?
> >
> >
> > 11.. Who preached to PTCL and PTA that there is no ISPAK and Mr.Bhutta
> has
> > been removed from President ship.
> >
> >
> > 12.. Who threaten me to capture the office and forced me to resign
from
> > President ship.
> >
> >
> > 13.. I would not like to discuss the issue of royalty time will
decide
> > who was right and who was wrong.
> >
> >
> > 14.. Please think impatiently then you will realise who are playing
> > politic and who is playing in their hands ? Many other points can be put
> for
> > your consideration.
> >
> >
> > 15.. Best regards.
> > Bhutta
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Asif Luqman Qazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar Manzoor"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"H.K.Pasha"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> >
> >
> > > Who is playing politics, the ones who want to include
> > > all ISPs in ISPAK or the ones who want to manipulate?
> > > ISPs are ready to pay more than Rs 10,000 but they
> > > will pay it to the representative body. Do we want to
> > > move ahead and invite people to join or do we want to
> > > create obstacles?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Asif
> > >
> > > --- sbhutta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > AoA,
> > > >
> > > > I received mails from Mr.Asif Luqman Qazi Sahib,
> > > > Mr.Azfar Manzoor Sahib and Mr.Ateeq Khan .
> > > >
> > > > My simple reply is that a meeting of paid members
> > > > will be held on 10th July, 2001 at ISPAK office the
> > > > notice of this meeting was issued well in time and
> > > > last date for renewal of memberships was fixed 30th
> > > > June, 2001.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are no differences of opinion on these dues
> > > > Registration and annual subscription.Rs.5000/- one
> > > > time and Rs.5000/- annually
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr.Qazi is requested to get renewal to attend this
> > > > meeting to raise his points in the house.
> > > >
> > > > No doubt ISPAK is body of ISPs and paid members from
> > > > ISPs will run this organization. Body is elected and
> > > > you also represented as member of EC. I would not
> > > > like to discuss the status of participants of
> > > > meeting in Islamabad and Lahore.
> > > >
> > > > The meeting of 10th July will decide the election
> > > > issue forever. Body has been registered and now we
> > > > have an un-changeable procedure for election and all
> > > > other issues. Account are being maintained properly
> > > > and audit report will be available for paid members
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr.Ateeq Khan suggested for extending renewal date
> > > > upto 5th July 2001. It will be considered in meeting
> > > > of 1oth. Mr.Azfar Manzoor is informed that Mr.Pasha
> > > > has already done which he has proposed regarding
> > > > meeting in Lahore I agree but paid members would be
> > > > allowed to join meeting of ISPAK. The status of the
> > > > participants should be defined.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The mails of all above three honourable members will
> > > > be put before the house of 10th July.
> > > >
> > > > I again would like to inform all of you that since
> > > > long we were sending invoices and e-mail to all ISPs
> > > > for membership for many time but we have very poor
> > > > response. There should be some difference between
> > > > paid and non-paid members.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It was decided that Rs.10/- per port would be
> > > > deposited in ISPAK account. Only three or four
> > > > provided the information regarding their ports and
> > > > rest kept silent but took part in discussion and
> > > > kept send hard words to us.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please be realist and do no do politics from this
> > > > forum.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards.
> > > >
> > > > Sanaullah Bhutta.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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