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The general house has power to amend any clause, We will
put this proposal and can amended as per majority decision. I alone have no
power to amend a single word in the MoA. Now we have to adopt procedure and also
have to inform registrar.
Bhutta
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:37
AM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY
MEETING
Bhutta Sb.,
You can not have both the Operating & non-operating
equal. The earlier has put his money at stake, while the other has no risk.
How can the two be equal.
Pl. check rules of any association, the voting
right is only with the operating member. If this leverage is for the benefit
of special, it is not fair.
Regards
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:17
PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY
MEETING
Every license holder from PTA who will pay
the dues can be voter.
Bhutta
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:39
PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY
MEETING
Dear Bhutta Saheb,
With all the mails going back and forth and
different points being raised I'm not really sure of the criteria for
voting. Will only the operational ISP's be able to vote or everyone who
has a license can vote.
Please advice.
Thank you,
Aly Ramzan
CubeXS
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:55
AM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY
MEETING
Please see my
previous mail sent to all on
21-06-2001. Don't blame without prove
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BE AWARE
!
The last date for renewal
of subscription of ISPAK is 30th June 2001.
Those members who will not
pay their dues upto this date, could not participate in the General Body
Meeting on 10th July 2001 & also in upcoming
Elections.
The voters list according
to paid members will be circulated on 6th July 2001. No change will be
allowed in the voter list.
Kindly take it serious
& important. No extension will be made. We have to proceed for
elections, such necessary actions are required to be taken
strictly.
Those who will pay after
due date that may be consider as member but not as voter.
Regards
Sanaullah
Bhutta
President
ISPAK
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL BODY
MEETING
> Bhutta
Sb.,
>
> Please distribute the list of members (paid &
unpaid) to each member. Your
> actions show that you want to
restrict the participants of your own choice
> may they even
qualify or not to achieve your own objectives. Every one has a
>
right to know about current status.
>
> Regards
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sbhutta"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar
Manzoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"H.K.Pasha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 6:38 AM
> Subject: Re: ISPAK: GENERAL
BODY MEETING
>
>
> >
1. Every body knows who are playing
politics. Who created rift on
> the
> > issue
of price of b/w 6000 and 15000. in the meeting at Super.net
>
Islamabad.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 2.. A group played the role to forced ISPAK to accept
US$.15000/- while
> > PTCL was willing to sell at US$.10,000/-
to ISPs in the open meeting.
> > US$.5000/- per 2MB per month
will be paid extra to PTCL by ISPs and also
> > loose customers
who will get @ US$.6000/- due to some members who forced
>
us
> > to accept this tariff to save some one in ministry. Rift
started from that
> > day. Who is responsible for this huge
loos to ISPs.?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> >
> > 3.. There is no restriction
to be member of ISPAK if some one fulfils
> the
> >
conditions agreed from first day of formation of ISPAK.
>
>
> >
> > 4.. Every body know there is
an " ISPAK", a representative body of
> > ISPs/DNOPs.
>
>
> >
> > 5.. There are no obstacles to
be member of ISPAK.
> >
> >
> >
6.. We are inviting continually to all ISP/DNOPs to join ISPAK.
The
> > registration form is available on WEB of ISPAK.
>
>
> >
> > 7.. What was the purpose of
un-official meetings?
> > 8.. Who created the term
of North and South while we all were jointly
> and
> >
smoothly working?
> >
> >
> > 9..
Who formed parallel body of ISPAK who announced that he is
president
> > for next term without approval of General
House?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 10.. An understanding was agreed with me on 17th May,
in Islamabad at
> > World Telecom Day, for election. Who
betrayed?
> >
> >
> > 11.. Who
preached to PTCL and PTA that there is no ISPAK and Mr.Bhutta
>
has
> > been removed from President ship.
> >
>
>
> > 12.. Who threaten me to capture the office
and forced me to resign from
> > President ship.
>
>
> >
> > 13.. I would not like
to discuss the issue of royalty time will decide
> > who was
right and who was wrong.
> >
> >
>
> 14.. Please think impatiently then you will realise who
are playing
> > politic and who is playing in their hands ?
Many other points can be put
> for
> > your
consideration.
> >
> >
> > 15..
Best regards.
> > Bhutta
> >
> >
> >
----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Asif Luqman Qazi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> To: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Azfar
Manzoor"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"nadeem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"H.K.Pasha"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:34 AM
> > Subject: Re:
ISPAK: GENERAL BODY MEETING
> >
> >
> > >
Who is playing politics, the ones who want to include
> > >
all ISPs in ISPAK or the ones who want to manipulate?
> > >
ISPs are ready to pay more than Rs 10,000 but they
> > >
will pay it to the representative body. Do we want to
> > >
move ahead and invite people to join or do we want to
> > >
create obstacles?
> > >
> > > Regards,
>
> > Asif
> > >
> > > --- sbhutta
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear All,
>
> > >
> > > > AoA,
> > >
>
> > > > I received mails from Mr.Asif Luqman Qazi
Sahib,
> > > > Mr.Azfar Manzoor Sahib and Mr.Ateeq
Khan .
> > > >
> > > > My simple reply is
that a meeting of paid members
> > > > will be held on
10th July, 2001 at ISPAK office the
> > > > notice of
this meeting was issued well in time and
> > > > last
date for renewal of memberships was fixed 30th
> > > >
June, 2001.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > > > There are no differences of opinion on
these dues
> > > > Registration and annual
subscription.Rs.5000/- one
> > > > time and Rs.5000/-
annually
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > > Mr.Qazi is requested to get renewal to
attend this
> > > > meeting to raise his points in the
house.
> > > >
> > > > No doubt ISPAK is
body of ISPs and paid members from
> > > > ISPs will run
this organization. Body is elected and
> > > > you also
represented as member of EC. I would not
> > > > like to
discuss the status of participants of
> > > > meeting in
Islamabad and Lahore.
> > > >
> > > > The
meeting of 10th July will decide the election
> > > >
issue forever. Body has been registered and now we
> > >
> have an un-changeable procedure for election and all
> >
> > other issues. Account are being maintained properly
>
> > > and audit report will be available for paid
members
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > > Mr.Ateeq Khan suggested for extending
renewal date
> > > > upto 5th July 2001. It will be
considered in meeting
> > > > of 1oth. Mr.Azfar Manzoor
is informed that Mr.Pasha
> > > > has already done which
he has proposed regarding
> > > > meeting in Lahore I
agree but paid members would be
> > > > allowed to join
meeting of ISPAK. The status of the
> > > > participants
should be defined.
> > > >
> > > >
>
> > >
> > > > The mails of all above three
honourable members will
> > > > be put before the house
of 10th July.
> > > >
> > > > I again
would like to inform all of you that since
> > > > long
we were sending invoices and e-mail to all ISPs
> > > >
for membership for many time but we have very poor
> > >
> response. There should be some difference between
> > >
> paid and non-paid members.
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > > It was decided that
Rs.10/- per port would be
> > > > deposited in ISPAK
account. Only three or four
> > > > provided the
information regarding their ports and
> > > > rest kept
silent but took part in discussion and
> > > > kept send
hard words to us.
> > > >
> > > >
>
> > >
> > > > Please be realist and do no do
politics from this
> > > > forum.
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> Best regards.
> > > >
> > > >
Sanaullah Bhutta.
> > > >
> > > >
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
__________________________________________________
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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